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  1. #11
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    Hatstand's Avatar
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
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    Weaver Lv 70
    So the solution to that could be that 30 seconds after anyone uses an ability, if the party is not in combat, the nearest enemy aggros on them. Now people have at most 30 seconds to pre-buff, but can still sit around and talk if they need to before anyone starts using abilities. Problem solved.
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  2. #12
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    Wawachume Popochume
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I wonder if they could at least make it so you could cast aetherflow if any member of your party is in combat.
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  3. #13
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    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatstand View Post
    There’s another place to post questions: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...escom-2019-Q-A

    I’m not sure based on the description and the panel whether they just want narrative and world related questions, and it would therefore be rude to flood them with healer questions, but even if it is it’d be good to upvote the healer questions that are already there as much as possible.

    Plus there’s a vindictive/cynical part of me that says we asked questions at the appropriate time and were ignored, and if we wait for the appropriate time to roll back around there’s no guarantee we won’t be ignored again, so why should we care whether it’s the appropriate time?
    Going who insistent some where that we'd wait and see after the Media tour skills were release I think there is no time like the present. This is further exasperated by that people playing White mages have been asking for just more things to keep them busy since the early days.

    Despite never seen them post in a discussion, I have told the Community Managers read everything. So will continue to post hoping someday they read this and something good happens.
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  4. #14
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    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    I like the new astro cards.
    Yeah it lost different effects but no matter how you cut it.
    Cards not balance were useless or situational.
    Ewer and bole were situational.
    Spire was useless.
    Arrow nobody likes but blm and samurai.
    Spear was whatever, guess bards like it a lot and mnks.
    Balance everyone loves and pretty much the only card everybody really cares about and most useful.
    Like someone else posted here, Balance was the one everyone wanted so I think the best course of action would've been to remove the +damage altogheter. I'm not familiar with the lore of the card, but it could anything else. Like a convalescenec effect on the target.
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  5. #15
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    I am honestly done writing anymore stuff regarding healer role anymore. If the devs aren't gonna read through all of posts players took time to write almost everyday between now and then to all the way until 5.1, why should I bother? I cannot help but feel they are more than likely to take their sweet time to make excuses in the future live letters. Devs will have to dig through our posts if they really care.
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  6. #16
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wawachume View Post
    I wonder if they could at least make it so you could cast aetherflow if any member of your party is in combat.
    Same for building seals on AST. I found a couple of times yesterday for example where a card was wasted because we were in combat, but I technically wasn't because I hadn't hit anything or needed to cure yet. It's just a pain, because I might have put a shield on all my party members as it seems sensible to put a prepared buff out at the start of a fight I'd not instictively DPS. It just feels clunky to have to through a DPS move or heal down first.
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    Last edited by Saefinn; 08-10-2019 at 06:10 PM.

  7. #17
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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    My SCH is fine thanks, very happy with it. My only real complaint was losing Energy Drain and that's back now. Please don't change anything SE. WHM is an absolute blast of fun to play though I'm not up to 80 yet. Can't comment on AST but my friends who have levelled it are happy with the changes that just happened and aren't looking for more. Overall, SE, judging by the comments of folks in my FC and crossworld linkshells, most players are fine with the healers as they are. It's just habitual forum users who are unhappy
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  8. #18
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    My SCH is fine thanks, very happy with it. My only real complaint was losing Energy Drain and that's back now. Please don't change anything SE. WHM is an absolute blast of fun to play though I'm not up to 80 yet. Can't comment on AST but my friends who have levelled it are happy with the changes that just happened and aren't looking for more. Overall, SE, judging by the comments of folks in my FC and crossworld linkshells, most players are fine with the healers as they are. It's just habitual forum users who are unhappy
    Well now what a wonderful dismissive attitude. Where do all these people come from so suddenly? AST's card system gets gutted for this simulacrum. It's not just "habitual forum users" unless you live under a rock.
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  9. #19
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    My SCH is fine thanks, very happy with it. My only real complaint was losing Energy Drain and that's back now. Please don't change anything SE. WHM is an absolute blast of fun to play though I'm not up to 80 yet. Can't comment on AST but my friends who have levelled it are happy with the changes that just happened and aren't looking for more. Overall, SE, judging by the comments of folks in my FC and crossworld linkshells, most players are fine with the healers as they are. It's just habitual forum users who are unhappy
    You're pretty dismissive of people's complaints there. And I'm not one to dismiss those who're having fun with it, hey great for those who're having fun, people like what they gonna like. But it seems the job has been changed to move away from what I like over the years, so I'm no longer having fun. I'd rather a happy medium TBH.

    But I've played SCH since the very beginning. I was happy in ARR and HW, I didn't complain. I started to complain in SB just outside of the forum & mostly to myself and ShB kinda was a nail in the coffin, hence I've become vocal on the forums since. I'm not one normally to complain on the forums as I have previously taken hope that SE will fix anything that doesn't work or I accept that maybe whilst I don't like this one thing, but I still like this other thing, other people might like what I don't like and as long as I'm having fun overall, then it's fine.

    Judging by the survey that went out through Reddit, most healers aren't fine with the way they are. I realise there is a statistical bias to the Reddit community, but arguably one of the better representations we have at the moment and more reliable than anecdotal evidence at least. And SCH ranked the least satisfied with a proportionate number of dissatisfied people. Though these were pre-5.05 stats, but I doubt Energy Drain would provide that much extra QoL to boost that rank.


    Add too that the healer forums here have been pretty much on fire. A lot of people offering feedback and input and some of the main threads ranking up a high number of likes.

    I really don't think it can be easily dismissed as "habitual forum users who are unhappy", you will always get them on forums, yes, but I'd argue what we're seeing is proportionally higher than what you'd expect for it to be dismissed as such.
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  10. #20
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
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    Weaver Lv 70
    I’m much the same. I was unhappy with the SCH changes in SB but didn’t say anything. I created an account for ShB specifically to comment on this, since SCH seems to be on a steady downwards trajectory and I’d like to help push against that if I can.
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