Post-Honeymoon SHB thoughts?

[Barta]

Well.... Now I can unsub till next expansion :V

The story was incredible, as was the zone design and music.

Not much to say after that, or a reason to stick around.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I loved Shadowbringers' story. Off the top of my head:

- The Scions feel more interesting this time around, but Thancred still feels pretty boring. Ryne also feels a bit too melodramatic.
- Too many fake-out deaths. Y'shtola living I can deal with, but Thancred using his forbidden anime technique multiple times, falling to the ground covered in blood while the camera pans to the sky and sad music plays, only to show up just fine again five minutes later was jarring.
- Zorn and Thorn being turned into waifus was unsettling. Vauthry felt like a good homage to Queen Brahne without just being a repeat of the character, though.
- I'm kind of disappointed Lyna and the Crystal Exarch don't stick around as Trusts after the first dungeon!
- The Crystal Exarch's identity felt really obvious for something they tried to hide the whole expac; I recall people figuring who he was back in Stormblood. You even get an option to ask about what happened to G'raha Tia early on if you've done the Crystal Tower Raid! They also laid it on really thick with the Crystal Tower battle theme against the Sin Eaters in the lead-up to Mt. Gulg. That aside, I didn't dislike the reveal. I was just surprised they held off on it so long.
- Everything from Mt. Gulg to the Dying Gasp was 15/10, aside from that bit of stalling with the Ondo that felt a bit like a pace-breaker.

[Alleo]

Story was one of the best ones and Eden fights are fun.

Other than that I am leveling some jobs slowly by using trusts and after having all crafters and gatherers now at 80 I gather the necessary scrips to equip them.

Otherwise nothing much has changed and the true success of the expansion will depend on future content for me. How the Ishgard restauration will turn out and what other new content we will get.

So story is the best part right now but there has to be more to keep people subscribed than that because after all its still P2P MMO.

[Lynesse]

I loved everything.

Class design I'm a little mixed on. I think it's the right direction but needed more time to bake. Some of their ideas were really good. Some were questionable to say the least.

Hi, I'm WAR. I do a single target combo in an AoE pull because no one at SE thought this was dumb for some reason.

Or PLD, with my way-too-many-attack-buttons and my-better-instant-cast-Cure-II Clemency that allows me to solo bosses. Atonement also hurts my ears.

Speaking of hurting my ears, GNB is that way ---> (although, I kind of like the new GNB sounds more than the old ones? Please don't hurt me.)

I like how SCH got Energy Drain back. It completely revitalized the class for me. I love it.

I'm eagerly anticipating WAR changes.

That said, I still love playing these classes. Just they all have these things about them that make the gameplay feel a little sloppy.

[Misutoraru]

So now that what I consider the honeymoon phase is over, what are your honest thoughts about shadowbringers? Yes I know I could’ve waited till 5.1 but I personally feel like this is the best time to ask.

Depends

Story/Lore wise, I think ShB is the best expansion so far, way better than SB and even on top of HW. If give us more insight of both Zodiark and Hydaelyn, give us another point of view of Ascian. Slightly disappointing of how Varis line go.

Game mechanics, Dungeon and Trial are pretty much the same formula as previous expansion, it have good and bad. Trust system is a good design but should limit it availability to leveling dungeon only and not as effective as DF.

Music, was great but could we have a way to disable mount theme music? It is very annoying everything I mount and dismount the music change.

Job, very disappointing about healer change, not the lose of DPS skill, but the flood with powerful low CD oGCD heal. while do not give us anything other than dps during downtime, not a fan of new AST card effect which I use to main healer back in SB. Love the change to MCH and Tank especially the remove of DA spam on DRK. Some job could use more love like RDM and NIN.

Some scenery are refreshing like Il Mheg and Lakeland some are quite boring such as Rak'tika. Rak'tika being Viera focus like Azim Steppe for Au Ra are nice, but the up coming expansion I would like to see some of those love putting on old ARR race

[jetfire117]

Music, was great but could we have a way to disable mount theme music? It is very annoying everything I mount and dismount the music change.

Yea, it's under the sound settings tab. Should be something like "Disable music while mounted" or something like that.

[Nyvara]

Music, was great but could we have a way to disable mount theme music? It is very annoying everything I mount and dismount the music change.

There is indeed a way! Not in game right now and I'm terrible at remembering but there is a way, I have my mount music turned off.

[Kaedan]

My opinion hasn't really changed. It's still the best expansion they have released yet with almost no glaring errors.

[IzVale]

SHB was storywise the best Exp I played in ages, kicked HW for me personally right down the throne.
Buut...

- I wished the MSQ was longer.
- I wished the Trust NPC system would include a whole lot more characters (Aymeric? Magnai? WHERE YOU GUYS AT MAN!)
- I wished I didn't had to stop the MSQ to run a lot of dungeons for getting the level up for being able to continue (Almost every single level and no, I don't want to be forced to do side quests, which I wanna keep for other classes to chill)

And, of course... the worst of 'em all -

- I wished I didn't have to say goodbye to Emet already


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[Misutoraru]

SHB was storywise the best Exp I played in ages, kicked HW for me personally right down the throne.
Buut...

- I wished the MSQ was longer.
- I wished the Trust NPC system would include a whole lot more characters (Aymeric? Magnai? WHERE YOU GUYS AT MAN!)
- I wished I didn't had to stop the MSQ to run a lot of dungeons for getting the level up for being able to continue (Almost every single level and no, I don't want to be forced to do side quests, which I wanna keep for other classes to chill)

And, of course... the worst of 'em all -

- I wished I didn't have to say goodbye to Emet already


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This

The side quests are really tedious, 9 out of 10 are not very meaningful side quests. Only very few give more input on the lore, and their reward in terms of EXP feel very like a waste of time

I do hope this tons of side quest throwing at you scenario get change in the furture