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  1. #1
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    Please make more mats from old maps available through scrips or curious crop exchange

    Things like Flannel and Wool Top, once from Aquapolis, now also can be gotten reasonably via scrips. Floss Silk once from Woodland Exploration and Blue Fox Hide once coming from solo-HW maps and Retainer Exploration can be gotten via growing and handing in Voidrake at the curious crop exchange. And a lot of other things from those old maps, like rare minions have long been shoved into other loot tables and become affordable thanks to that.

    Both, acquisition via scrips and curious crop exchange have done wonders to keep certain types of glamour and furniture not cheap but affordable, and set a precedent for doing this kind of thing.

    Sadly there are a few mats coming from old maps / explorations that are still scarce as hell, since few still do those old ARR maps or send their retainers out for old level 50 explorations (plus the drop rate of the item is low to begin with) ... yet the glamour is high in demand, leading to at times ridiculous prices/scarcity.

    Therefore I would like to propose to have these items also be obtainable via curious crop exchange and/or scrips. A reasonable (not small) amount is fine, given those were rare drops, just... make them available at all, beyond the old 50s content? Sometimes I see hardly ANY of these mats at all available, and otherwise they go for often obscene amounts for something that comes from level 50 content.

    The things most coming to mind are:
    - Light Steel Plate (so far only via level 50 exploration)
    - Mariner Cotton Cloth (Boarskin Treasure Map & Leather Buried Treasure Map)
    - Mist Silk (Leather Buried Treasure Map)
    - Polarized Glass (Leather Buried Treasure Map, now also Submarine voyage to Deep Sea site 7, but the drop rate seems to be so low I still have to see any dent in the prices/supply on the MB)

    (Note: I would not propose this if enough people would still really do the old 50s content to obtain these things and make gil from it, but the scarcity/price on the MB is telling enough how that this is not the case -- everyone who can focuses on high level explorations and the new maps.)
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    Last edited by Chiami; 08-10-2019 at 02:07 PM.
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    people refuse to do older maps now, that was never a problem before shadowbringers, even if the maps are almost free because they just don't believe they could have any valuable items even if you tell them about those.
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    Even with the achivements from doing the older maps, not enough people seem to want to do them to balance the market on those items (and I'm sure quite a few others) but if they put the items into the shops wouldn't there be even less reasons to do the original maps or explorations, rendering them dead content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Even with the achivements from doing the older maps, not enough people seem to want to do them to balance the market on those items (and I'm sure quite a few others) but if they put the items into the shops wouldn't there be even less reasons to do the original maps or explorations, rendering them dead content?
    I fear it is functionally already dead content -- going by the scarcity and ridiculous prices some of these items fetch on the MB. That's the only reason why I suggest it at all.

    Heck, even items from Aquapolis and Canals have become insanely expensive, as no one is doing those anymore -- for example Ratanhia Leaves and Taoist's Wool go for 100-150k on Crystal, Nagxian Silk and Thavnairian Wool are over 300k and have sometimes as little as 3-4 listings on a world, at best maybe a dozen -- OUCH!

    So unless the devs add some new incentives to do older maps or make these drops available through other means, and do this for maps from 2.0 to 4.0 eventually I fear things remain painful with those items and associated glam. It -has- been done with other things already, see my original post, just as shoving some of the glam items into loot tables from PotD/HoH. This move definitely helped to keep things available without paying for them with your firstborn son or something (or simply being unavailable lest you run the content yourself til the cows come home, given the scarcity of some drops -- plus Aqua and Canals you can't even solo!).

    While for retainer explorations, looks like the only time people touch the old ones is if they are leveling their retainers, which is simply not enough to supply demand.
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    Non-native speaker of English so forgive any butchering of grammar or vocabulary you may find in my posts.

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    I still feel they actually should keep stuff rare, it always hurts to see how they nerv stuff to the point its worthless - evem more i hate the PotD or HoH drops... its just cheap. But it should be easier to get them yourself... like let us finaly stack maps and get more of them...
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    Wait, that's perfect.

    What if they make the old maps stackable? The older the map, the larger the allowed stack? If you want to just idly crank out 20 maps, you can do that on an old enough map. If you want the new stuff, one at a time please...
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    I don't think they should be made into scrip items, but retainer items. That way they are still rare to an extent.
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    Just allow Aquapolis and Canals to be run unsynched. They're effectively dead content anyways.
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