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    Player
    Aiscence's Avatar
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    Aiscence Amano
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    Stone sky sea is dumb. Lot of job with the required ilvl cant kill it (try e4s as mch with the required ilvl, and remember they are supposed to be done without food/pot) or you must create a dedicated rotation for the 3 min fights.

    They could add a parser in game, the rule of "dont harass people on their dps" (not literally but you know what I mean) is already there in the ToS, so nothing would change. Flame someone? get reported, that's it.
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    Alexya Ultor
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiscence View Post
    Stone sky sea is dumb. Lot of job with the required ilvl cant kill it (try e4s as mch with the required ilvl, and remember they are supposed to be done without food/pot) or you must create a dedicated rotation for the 3 min fights.

    They could add a parser in game, the rule of "dont harass people on their dps" (not literally but you know what I mean) is already there in the ToS, so nothing would change. Flame someone? get reported, that's it.
    "Nothing would change" so why bother adding it then? Because stuff *would* change. You'd immediately get people justifying things with that old excuse used by exploiters since forever now; "It's in the game, so the devs must want us to use it. If they didn't want it in the game, they'd remove it." And we'd be back to square one. A DPS meter already exists, and it's stupidly simple to set up and begin using. There's no reason to further complicate things by having SE dedicate time and resources to creating something that already exists elsewhere.
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    Player Rakshazi's Avatar
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    Rakshazi Kshatrazi
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Trixze View Post
    I want a damage meter!
    NO.
    The way people will use it is to only berate others and compare their d**k sizes. We have enough toxic people in this game and I, personaly, don't want to give them another tool to spread the poison.
    If you want to improve yourself - there is a special arena with special dummies for you to check your damage - "Stone, Sky, Sea" duty. It maybe a little dumb but it do the job.
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiscence View Post
    They could add a parser in game, the rule of "dont harass people on their dps" (not literally but you know what I mean) is already there in the ToS, so nothing would change. Flame someone? get reported, that's it.
    Thing would change, certainly we will see more such issue and more fall into grey area, in best case scenario they would need extra man power to cope with the increase reports and in worst case the community will divide or turn very toxic, because there are MMO that let such tool took over the community
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    Thing would change, certainly we will see more such issue and more fall into grey area, in best case scenario they would need extra man power to cope with the increase reports and in worst case the community will divide or turn very toxic, because there are MMO that let such tool took over the community
    This is why we can’t have nice things.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    We have that system already in PF. People set min ilevels well above their own all the time and the community hasn't broken.
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    Alexya Ultor
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    We have that system already in PF. People set min ilevels well above their own all the time and the community hasn't broken.
    So, no need to change anything then. The system works! Best leave it as is. If it ain't broken and all that.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Ilevels requirements do not provide any information about performance, which is what people are asking for so your logic there doesn't work. Personal parses are a great way to know how well you're doing across all skill levels in a concrete form. E.g. it's one thing to know that melding increases your dps but some amount, but quite another to see how much it actually does. It's VERY significant, but without a parser you wouldn't realize just how
    surprisingly significant it really is.
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    Lilia Atlantia
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 40
    We either need a damage meter or increased feedback to our performance as a whole. Counteract the increased reports by adding a condition to beat a certain check before you can do EX/Savage - the gap between story content and content like EX/Savage is far too wide without feedback and something telling players when they're not yet ready.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Which could also be a sign that their normal content is under-tuned and they're not really helping their players improve by keeping it at such a level.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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