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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    Yep, many people want a fully functional damage meeter into the game so that we don't have to use a cluncky and buggy third party program.

    But you know... there's this old prophecy that the implementation of a damage meter into the game will be the start of the next umbral calamity... so they better not.
    Or maybe its the fact that berating players with a parser is a bannable offense.having them then release such a tool into the game would just open up a can of worms because then they'd be forced to decide do they let player berate others over parsers which would go against everything they've stood for in the past and result in a backlash from the player community or still punish players and deal with a much larger amount of reports and waste their time on those reports going through the logs(you'll likely end up with a lot of fake reports keep in mind)
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    Marc Vigar
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    Omega
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    Stone Sky Sea can have it's uses but in a real fight, inside a dungeon, you will not see how are you performing unless you use an external source.

    I understand SE position on this matter, they do not want problems, just look at WoW toxicity with all those addons to keep track of aboslutely everything.

    My advice, use ACT and never tell anyone you're using it. We have a kind of tacit pact with SE, they know most people use DPS metters but as long as you don't harass people you won't have any problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windsun33 View Post
    Like anyone has ever done that. SE is paranoid about that for some weird reason, yet never seen it happen in ANY game, including those that had a parser built in. Maybe it's a Japanese thing, where all the nails have to be exactly the same height.
    Not sure how someone can say this with a straight face, it is a tool and like any tool it depends on how it is used. So of course people use it in ways it is not supposed to.

    Either way while it would be nice to have an official one, if a player wants to use one then use the unofficial one, but please let us not try and pretend some will not use it in ways to disparage others. Granted it is a moot reason since that is what GM's are for and people currently already do it. SE is being overly protective, but not much we can do about that.
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    Nosam Kin
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I just want to remind everyone that ffxiv has a damage meter. It just only shows up at the end of PVP. Make that accessible to PVE and the problem is solved.
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    On mobile, I get PS4 does not have that option and that is unfortunate.
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    Ambien Nightmare
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    Diabolos
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    Damage meters are the devil.
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    Nielk Sachi
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AmbienNightmare View Post
    Damage meters are the devil.
    Exact reason they dont add it less ppl practice their class the less they know of a meter and more subs they get. But then blame the raiders for kicking them out. Cuz ppl pointed them out for not practicing their class.
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    Leih'li Molkot
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    It could be because of the community toxicity, but I also think that implementing an in-game damage meter that can be turned on and off could be really challenging to do in FFXIV. I'm no programmer, but gathering from some of the answers from the latest Live Letter, it sounds like data transfering and data storage is something that is constantly causing issues when programming something, thanks to vanilla ffxiv's spaghetti code that is this game's foundation.
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    Becidenne Rhymsdottir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realism_Snide View Post
    It could be because of the community toxicity, but I also think that implementing an in-game damage meter that can be turned on and off could be really challenging to do in FFXIV. I'm no programmer, but gathering from some of the answers from the latest Live Letter, it sounds like data transfering and data storage is something that is constantly causing issues when programming something, thanks to vanilla ffxiv's spaghetti code that is this game's foundation.
    I am a programmer, and parsing is basically just adding up damage numbers from the log then dividing by time (simplified). It's trivial. ACT already does it successfully and it's developers are 3rd party with barely any access to game resources. No, their decision has nothing to do with the complexity of implementing a parser.
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    Last edited by Rhyn; 08-16-2019 at 02:52 AM.

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    Jack Cinder
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    If you really don't want to use a parser or have somebody else parse you, I have known of an absolute madman on ps4 that legit would tally up the entire goddamn battle log on a calculator and divide by the total seconds the fight took to measure dps. Doesn't really work for DoTs though unless you estimate damage.
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    Last edited by Zerathor; 08-10-2019 at 02:04 PM.

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