New crafting skills in ShB - Prep Touch & Delicate Syn are better than they seem!

[Buuhuu]

Nice to see you posting discussions again

From what I've seen of rotations so far, including my own, it's been the other way around. It varies, but I tend to start with Ingen and 4-5 Delicate Synth, then move to Strides + Preparatory in the second half to set up the Brygots finisher. I feel Preparatory's strength is in how powerful it is with Strides. 200% is like a 5 stack Brygots and IQ tends to cap by 8 now. Strides + Prep at 7-8 can often put you in range of finishing with Brygots.

Ingenuity II is currently a dead skill and Innovation is far weaker which frees some CP and lets you do things like Steady II -> Ingen -> Strides -> Prep -> Strides -> Brygot -> Careful II.

I've found Prudent has uses and Focused Touch is quite useful.

As for our 70-80 toolkit I pretty much agree. Delicate and Prep Touch are very overpowered. Reuse is a goldmine and bonkers. Intensive and both 80 skills are virtually useless though Intensive has potential if Ishgard is as hard as they say.

While we're on the topic of discussion I'm curious if anyone can strengthen this one. It's a non spec vendor food Reuse that works off NQ mats + HQ Alkahast but just falls short on chest pieces. I have 100% Spec vendor food Reuse rotations too if anyone needs.

I tested a bit, but I couldn't strengthen this rota to go full 100%, not even with your stats. But I got a little stronger version:

[Kaurhz]

I tested a bit, but I couldn't strengthen this rota to go full 100%, not even with your stats. But I got a little stronger version:

Nice to see you posting discussions again

From what I've seen of rotations so far, including my own, it's been the other way around. It varies, but I tend to start with Ingen and 4-5 Delicate Synth, then move to Strides + Preparatory in the second half to set up the Brygots finisher. I feel Preparatory's strength is in how powerful it is with Strides. 200% is like a 5 stack Brygots and IQ tends to cap by 8 now. Strides + Prep at 7-8 can often put you in range of finishing with Brygots.

Ingenuity II is currently a dead skill and Innovation is far weaker which frees some CP and lets you do things like Steady II -> Ingen -> Strides -> Prep -> Strides -> Brygot -> Careful II.

I've found Prudent has uses and Focused Touch is quite useful.

As for our 70-80 toolkit I pretty much agree. Delicate and Prep Touch are very overpowered. Reuse is a goldmine and bonkers. Intensive and both 80 skills are virtually useless though Intensive has potential if Ishgard is as hard as they say.

While we're on the topic of discussion I'm curious if anyone can strengthen this one. It's a non spec vendor food Reuse that works off NQ mats + HQ Alkahast but just falls short on chest pieces. I have 100% Spec vendor food Reuse rotations too if anyone needs.

Variant, slightly better on both progress and quality.

[Liam_Harper]

Nice, smart thinking on Focused Touch. Cheers

I think 100% with vendor food Non-Specialist would be impossible. The idea is to be able to make anything HQ on vendor food and have Reuse by adding a single HQ Alkahast, which I also use Reuse for the tome mat. For that you can't need more than 4040 to reach 100% (Facet Chest pieces)

My own rotation skips a Comfort Zone to lower step count, which can be added back in, letting you double Careful III and run on much lower Craft. Kauhrz is a step longer but 1 less CP which matters if you didn't CP meld the chest.

[Kaurhz]

Nice, smart thinking on Focused Touch. Cheers

I think 100% with vendor food Non-Specialist would be impossible. The idea is to be able to make anything HQ on vendor food and have Reuse by adding a single HQ Alkahast, which I also use Reuse for the tome mat. For that you can't need more than 4040 to reach 100% (Facet Chest pieces)

My own rotation skips a Comfort Zone to lower step count, which can be added back in, letting you double Careful III and run on much lower Craft. Kauhrz is a step longer but 1 less CP which matters if you didn't CP meld the chest.

I don't know why you're taking the route of the Alkahests, versus just HQ'n the low level intermediary material, even the Facet Chest of Casting w/ HQ Stonegold Nugget is enough to guarantee the quality. Also 1 step is semantic game.

[Buuhuu]

I don't know why you're taking the route of the Alkahests, versus just HQ'n the low level intermediary material, even the Facet Chest of Casting w/ HQ Stonegold Nugget is enough to guarantee the quality. Also 1 step is semantic game.

Well, because Alkahests are usable universally I suppose. I used them aswell, when I needed HQ mats. But as I don't need them anymore. I just go the route without reuse at all^^

[Liam_Harper]

I don't know why you're taking the route of the Alkahests, versus just HQ'n the low level intermediary material, even the Facet Chest of Casting w/ HQ Stonegold Nugget is enough to guarantee the quality. Also 1 step is semantic game.

Well, everything at 2 star uses Alkahast, you can Reuse for the tome mat and you get 3 Alkahast per craft vs 1 Nugget. Alc's a specialist atm so they've very easy.

Once you no longer care about tome mats or Reuse for Ingots you can NQ all the mats and switch to low-step 100% hq macros.

True one step is trivial, though if you mass produce you might care. Didn't mean that as criticism, it's a very nice modification.