5.x WAR and DRK performance in Ultimate?

[DRKoftheAzure]

This basically me asking if WAR and DRK are still viable for Ultimate raids after Shadowbringers launched.

Like can they clear the fights before enrage happens or are their overall DPS too low and they hit enrage?

[Canadane]

Did war lose anything other than the BB combo?
I don’t think that would lower their level 60/70 DPS would it?

[Seraph522]

Admittedly speaking as someone who's never touched Ultimate before, it's tricky to calculate. I can't speak to WAR very well, but DRK's two primary sources of potency loss at 70 are the downgraded Edge of Darkness potency (since you're averaging about 4 Edges per minute according to Emiin's DRK guide, that's a 600 pot/min loss) and no Living Shadow, which is harder to calculate for damage. PLD loses out on Atonement (200 pot/min loss), Confiteor (275 pot/min, since it's replaced with another HS), and Intervene (400 pot/min) as sources of damage, with the additional problem of dealing with cast times for their spells (which can affect damage during heavy movement windows). GNB also loses 900 pot/min thanks to no Blasting Zone and can't fit in as many Burst Strikes into their No Mercy windows thanks to no Bloodfest. I'm not sure how those all even out against each other, but everyone loses some of their damage at 70.

[BarretOblivion]

WAR just can't holmgang as often but it plays the exact same as it did in Stormblood... for better or worse. -_-

[Izsha]

All the jobs got substantial increases to base potency combos. Storms eye combo ised to be 150, 190, 280 for 620 pot. Now its 200, 300, 380 for 880. That MORE than makes up for loss of slashing. FC went from 520 to 590. They also did some damage formula reworks so potency isnt a 1 to 1 what itnused to be. But tanks should be doing more damage at lower levels than they used to overall. If dps was high ebough hefore, it should be even higher now for every job. Whos the highEST? Meh. If you want to do a boatload of math be my guest. But they should all be fine.