Please consider giving PLD a way to generate Oath gauge outside of auto attacks.

[Acidblood]

You mean like how Holy Spirit used to give 20 gauge? (OMG class mechanic interaction!)

Which may be a little overpowered now that Sheltron lasts 6s, but it could be 10 or 15 gauge instead. Or if SE feels like giving Bulwark back they could rework it into a 10% damage reduction + Sheltron (and Cover) cost 0 gauge during Bulwark.

[Absimiliard]

Paladins can have oath gauge from job actions when dark knights can get black blood from autos.

[Saeno]

Paladins can have oath gauge from job actions when dark knights can get black blood from autos.

Blackblood generation and Oath gauge generation work differently. DRK can either gain more from buffs, cheat it with Delirium or gain 20 from their combos. Their buffs recharge during downtime as well.

This isn't the case for PLD however. There is no way to cheat the Oath gauge. You have to build it via auto attacks but you can't do that without a target. Blackblood doesn't come to a halt during downtime like Oath gauge does.

[Saeno]

You mean like how Holy Spirit used to give 20 gauge? (OMG class mechanic interaction!)

Which may be a little overpowered now that Sheltron lasts 6s, but it could be 10 or 15 gauge instead. Or if SE feels like giving Bulwark back they could rework it into a 10% damage reduction + Sheltron (and Cover) cost 0 gauge during Bulwark.

Holy Spirit still requires a target, which doesn't solve the issue of PLD being unable to generate gauge during downtime.

I can see Bulwark being a camoflauge clone but I think PLD's mitigation is fine. What makes PLD's skills feel awkward is when the boss is untargettable. You can't generate gauge and depending on the fight you may not have the gauge needed to Sheltron + intervention or Cover + Sheltron or Sheltron into Sheltron. Lot's of your abilities are tied to the oath gauge but if downtime prohibits further generation of the gauge then you become limited in the uses of these abilities.

[Duskane]

Probably tack it onto a trait for the wings I guess

[Acidblood]

Holy Spirit still requires a target, which doesn't solve the issue of PLD being unable to generate gauge during downtime.

True, but MP regenerates during downtime, and the Requiescat cooldown still ticks, which then allows Holy Spirit spam to build gauge quickly once the fight starts again. Which yes, I know is not the same, but for me the biggest issue with PLD gauge is that it's essentially passive and needs interactively far more than it needs downtime generation (i.e. as it is we would be better off just having a changed cooldown).

[Ladon]

Attaching 25 oath generation to FoF would be a quick and dirty fix for this. The biggest problem I am finding is that in many fights I need sheltron or intervention at the start of the fight before it’s ready. It really annoys me that you cannot have Sheltron ready for the first buster in E3S if you ate first target.

[whiskeybravo]

It seems like it would be awkward but I don't really get it. You don't need gauge in the beginning of a fight, just let the other tanks pull. If you're going to need the mitigation after a transition then save it. I mean, if you burned it without really needing it then complain about not having it later.. That's on you, no need to revise the system because you can't figure it out.

The damage is pretty insignificant thus far anyways. Well, it's pretty heavy in Titan, but all the other fights are perfectly scripted to our new CD suite. In Leviathan (at least if you have a WAR to holmgang) then pretty much all of your CDs are available for fluff.

[Derio]

Honestly I just wish Sheltron was on a 20s or 30s cooldown. I mean its already takes that long to generate enough gauge to get it. I am glad they are looking at defensive cooldowns for 5.1

[Saeno]

Attaching 25 oath generation to FoF would be a quick and dirty fix for this. The biggest problem I am finding is that in many fights I need sheltron or intervention at the start of the fight before it’s ready. It really annoys me that you cannot have Sheltron ready for the first buster in E3S if you ate first target.

I'd just like to point out that Sheltron IS actually available for the first Rip current of Leviathan. You get precisely 50 gauge in time for the tank buster. You can also try it out in Leviathan normal since the tank buster timing is the same.

https://youtu.be/EABDzOIFn5k?t=36