Viera's get their own hairstyles?...

[xxvaynxx]

So we can't use lightning hair and other hair we have to unlock?....sorry I find that pretty unfair.
I'm ok with not getting the legacy hair but hair we have to unlock/or buy? that's not fair to us viera.

[Mikhaill]

I'm baffled as to why they seem to have issues with Viera and hairstyles and hats.
It's not like their head is oddly shaped or anything.
Starting to feel like adding Viera was a bigger problem than they thought lol.

[Penthea]

I'm baffled as to why they seem to have issues with Viera and hairstyles and hats.
It's not like their head is oddly shaped or anything.
Starting to feel like adding Viera was a bigger problem than they thought lol.

I understand the problem with hats. For a start the earholes can't be in the same place as they are for miqos so they can't just reuse those hat models. Secondly miqo ears are completely hidden in a lot of hats because their ears are small enough to be tucked in. For example in a hat shaped like a cowboy hat you rarely see miqo ears. Viera ears are far larger and stiffer. It's just not very believable to have them tucked into a hat. On top of that they would look downright stupid poking out of the top of many hats. I wager that for hrothgar it's far easier to adjust hats and make them look good because their ears are so tiny.

However the hairstyles puzzle me. Only a handful of those accessible by all races would be unsuitable for viera. The rest is mostly a case of adjusting the tufts where the ear meets the hair on the head, which is how it is done with miqos. I cannot fathom why they are against doing this. Creating completely new hairstyles is far more work than adjusting existing styles.

An argument can be made for hrothgar having a different shaped skull and being the only race with a hunched posture which could make some hairstyles look weird or clip badly. But viera's headshape is very standard and so is their posture. What's the problem?

And then there's the hilariously bad decision to lock hrothgar hairstyles to faces.

I don't understand SE sometimes. This whole hairstyle situation with the new races is baffling.

[Mikhaill]

I understand the problem with hats. For a start the earholes can't be in the same place as they are for miqos so they can't just reuse those hat models. Secondly miqo ears are completely hidden in a lot of hats because their ears are small enough to be tucked in. For example in a hat shaped like a cowboy hat you rarely see miqo ears. Viera ears are far larger and stiffer. It's just not very believable to have them tucked into a hat. On top of that they would look downright stupid poking out of the top of many hats. I wager that for hrothgar it's far easier to adjust hats and make them look good because their ears are so tiny.

However the hairstyles puzzle me. Only a handful of those accessible by all races would be unsuitable for viera. The rest is mostly a case of adjusting the tufts where the ear meets the hair on the head, which is how it is done with miqos. I cannot fathom why they are against doing this. Creating completely new hairstyles is far more work than adjusting existing styles.

An argument can be made for hrothgar having a different shaped skull and being the only race with a hunched posture which could make some hairstyles look weird or clip badly. But viera's headshape is very standard and so is their posture. What's the problem?

And then there's the hilariously bad decision to lock hrothgar hairstyles to faces.

I don't understand SE sometimes. This whole hairstyle situation with the new races is baffling.

I can get with you on the amounts of headgear they would have to alter but at least let them where some AF's
hats and stuff. You can't wear some of them and it's sad.

The whole hairstyle situation just puts things in whole new perspective.
Like Christ, how are you having a hard time with pre-existing hairstyles?
This is a mess.

[Nedkel]

I'm baffled as to why they seem to have issues with Viera and hairstyles and hats.
It's not like their head is oddly shaped or anything.
Starting to feel like adding Viera was a bigger problem than they thought lol.

Smol multi-million indie company pls understand.
Meanwhile lone modders are able to not only upgrade the quality of old hairstyles, but make old ones working on viera. ^^

[SturmChurro]

I don't think it's an issue of can't, but rather an issue of want. They probably always were working on these as limited, were content with them being limited, and never expected them to ever be 'complete'; planned the new races out this way, i.e. work on more unique hairs later when we have time. I can see issues with Viera and helmets, but keep in mind, and I posted this in the other thread, Au Ra were added via an expac, gigantic horns poking out of the sides of their heads and they just clip right through the helmet. Right through. They also have access to all hairstyles.

They should have just not added them until they could have been actually finished, as a full race. I guess that would have clashed with marketing though.

[Gwenorai]

I think the argument with this is that they can say, when you bought the hair it was working as intended - every race worked with that hair at the current time of purchase. But then this brings up an issue if you're already a Viera and then go to order the hair from the mogstation - there should be a pop up saying that the character can't currently use this hair.

Can anyone confirm if it does this already? Because it should.

[SturmChurro]

I think the argument with this is that they can say, when you bought the hair it was working as intended - every race worked with that hair at the current time of purchase. But then this brings up an issue if you're already a Viera and then go to order the hair from the mogstation - there should be a pop up saying that the character can't currently use this hair.

Can anyone confirm if it does this already? Because it should.

Mogstation give warnings like "can only be used once per character", but there are no warnings that the hair specifically is not usable by viera. It should definitely be an added warning on the store page, among others.

I understand the problem with hats. For a start the earholes can't be in the same place as they are for miqos so they can't just reuse those hat models. Secondly miqo ears are completely hidden in a lot of hats because their ears are small enough to be tucked in. For example in a hat shaped like a cowboy hat you rarely see miqo ears. Viera ears are far larger and stiffer. It's just not very believable to have them tucked into a hat. On top of that they would look downright stupid poking out of the top of many hats. I wager that for hrothgar it's far easier to adjust hats and make them look good because their ears are so tiny.

However the hairstyles puzzle me. Only a handful of those accessible by all races would be unsuitable for viera. The rest is mostly a case of adjusting the tufts where the ear meets the hair on the head, which is how it is done with miqos. I cannot fathom why they are against doing this. Creating completely new hairstyles is far more work than adjusting existing styles.

An argument can be made for hrothgar having a different shaped skull and being the only race with a hunched posture which could make some hairstyles look weird or clip badly. But viera's headshape is very standard and so is their posture. What's the problem?

And then there's the hilariously bad decision to lock hrothgar hairstyles to faces.

I don't understand SE sometimes. This whole hairstyle situation with the new races is baffling.

Like, headgear okay, I can see arguments there. Hairstyles? For viera? Not so much. I think ears are lower to the head than miqo'te*, so would maybe would require more adjustments than miqo'te, but I just don't see it. They are choosing not to do it. Definitely you'd think it would take more work to create new, unique hairs. That would only be for one race and gender by the way, instead of creating hair that everyone could use.

[LilySkye]

miqo'te will continue to be the master race

[NessaWyvern]

As much as I really love Viera, sadly I'll be going back to Miqo'te now. Finding out that I'll never be able to use the hairstyles I grinded/paid millions for, is really disheartening