Quote Originally Posted by RiotSiren View Post
Honestly I feel like RDM is in a fine place atm, it's more the perception of it that is flawed. Looking at the statistics from FFlogs, it is currently one of the lowest DPS class in the game, however its still competitive with other DPS. From my perspective it is less RDM is very weak and more BLM/MNK/DRG are exceptionally strong. On average it seems within about 200 rDPS then other classes which is trivial in most cases. On top of that in 95% of content RDM utility DOES have value, for example my current static just completed a E3s with 5 deaths (3 DPS) largely due to the RDM being able to raise so the healers didn't bottom out their manna. Because of the RDM we now have a second clear and a few of us have a very embarrassing parse.

Like I said I feel like at the end of the day this seems more like a PF being dumb issue and less a RDM being bad thing. People just hear "RDM is bad and does low DPS" and they don't understand why, where, or to what the extent. Its one of those cases of unless you are going for the world record speed clear RDM in its current state is fine. You can clear anything with just about any valid comp atm, if you are hitting enrage you have bigger problems then your class make up.
I'd say the problem here is that there *is* an obvious easier way out, and people confident in their weekly clears pugging simply have no reason to bring an RDM along at all. You're arguing that RDM is great for prog. Yeah, that's great and true! But nobody was arguing that it wasn't. Personally, I'm arguing for *all* rDPS to go closer to the current top 4 since nerfing the top 4 would cause even more issues for dancers and ninjas. In this equation, RDM would still be the weakest as by the nature of the job, but it shouldn't be this weak.

If not buffed in the traditional sense, there has to be a trade-off for not having to use your raise/cure and gives RDM a small boost that helps it flourish a little more outside of progging. Would give it a small layer of additional depth as well.