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    Samuraijake's Avatar
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    Samurai Jake
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    Tank Damage seems balanced according to FF14 logs

    I went to ff14 logs... looked at parses for trials and eden raids between 50%-100% max parses and the tanks seem all the same... no job was dominantly at the top or bottom.

    Obviously looking at warrior, on some fights they were actually #1 in some areas. The bias part of me would want to see warriors get potency buffs so they can be identified as the "dps tank" but hey... at least they arent stigmatically low on damage like ppl claim they are.

    numbers dont lie.... ff14logs has the recordings...things seemed "balanced" in regards to damage done between the 4 tanks.
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    Marc Vigar
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    I don't know where have you been looking at or if you are being ironic but overall GNB is always on top, followed by PLD.

    Tldr: GNB>PLD>>WAR>DRK
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    Yuin Yasha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar View Post
    I don't know where have you been looking at or if you are being ironic but overall GNB is always on top, followed by PLD.

    Tldr: GNB>PLD>>WAR>DRK
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...1045&class=Any
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...1046&class=Any

    in titania WAR do more dps

    and btw tanks dmg is well balanced, warrior dmg domination has to end sooner or later ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...1045&class=Any
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...1046&class=Any

    in titania WAR do more dps

    and btw tanks dmg is well balanced, warrior dmg domination has to end sooner or later ...
    I think you should check that again xD GNB is still on top and PLD 2nd, on Titania WAR goes above PLD but still below GNB.
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    Kaleth Orebiter
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    Man I swear.. Grifters see a difference of 0.14 DPS per sec for a specific raid and they already assaulting the devs for a buff..

    At 75th percentile
    There's on a 2% relative difference between the strongest tank and the weakest one..
    Comparing the strongest tank (GNB) with the weakest DPS (DNC) : 64.28%
    Comparing the weakest tank (WAR) with the weakest DPS (DNC) : 62.48%
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    Last edited by Ardox; 08-09-2019 at 04:38 AM. Reason: stat correction

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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar View Post
    I don't know where have you been looking at or if you are being ironic but overall GNB is always on top, followed by PLD.

    Tldr: GNB>PLD>>WAR>DRK
    With a difference of a few hundred. Which means they are quite well balanced.
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    They are somewhat balance in DPS department
    It's not detrimental

    Sure warrior and Dark could use a little potency fluff here and there would be nice if Dark had some say what Fray would do

    But to no ones surprise the two designed as MT do less than the two designed as OT.
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    Cassius Rex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    They are somewhat balance in DPS department
    It's not detrimental

    Sure warrior and Dark could use a little potency fluff here and there would be nice if Dark had some say what Fray would do

    But to no ones surprise the two designed as MT do less than the two designed as OT.
    I would be partial to having Fray mimic whatever we do. Popping him just before delirium spam ensues would make for some amusing results.
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    It... makes no sense honestly that DRK/WAR are dealing less than PLD/GNB. Those two are desgined to be the main tanks which means logically they are holding hate and gaining the most from being MT. Both of them are also the "burst" tanks and yet their burst isn't strong enough to keep their average up with the other tanks with more utility.
    Its the same logic as DPS, if you have more utility it would make sense for it to deal less personal dps than one that has 0 utility.
    PLD has the most raid wide mitigation with self mitigation that is tied to the job guage and not thier damage.
    GNB has great OT capabilities with a regen OGCD and a great OT skill that is always up.

    Then you have DRK/WAR which have problems with their designs:
    If you don't pop TBN its a waist of DPS as well as limiting to a DRK's dps of needing to always have 3k mana at basically all times, again limiting their DPS.
    WAR's Nascent Flash is both the shortest duration as well as weakest of the OT skills with it having a "heal" to it but its too short for it to be significant boon in savage. Finally they also have the lowest APM by a signficant margin making the class overall play/feel poor outside of IR.
    Quote Originally Posted by Samuraijake View Post
    I went to ff14 logs... looked at parses for trials and eden raids between 50%-100% max parses and the tanks seem all the same... no job was dominantly at the top or bottom.

    Obviously looking at warrior, on some fights they were actually #1 in some areas. The bias part of me would want to see warriors get potency buffs so they can be identified as the "dps tank" but hey... at least they arent stigmatically low on damage like ppl claim they are.

    numbers dont lie.... ff14logs has the recordings...things seemed "balanced" in regards to damage done between the 4 tanks.
    No. WAR being top on one fight is only because said fight favors WAR because of Holmgang. Right now everyone is undergeared so the tank invulns are very important for clearing. Once we get more geared, PLD/GNB are going to be overtaking those WARs in those fights.
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    Last edited by BarretOblivion; 08-08-2019 at 04:45 PM.

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