Dear Paladins

[Senden]

I don't get why healers would be annoyed.. I mean sure it's their job to heal but if I'm lowish on health, mass pulled and popped Requiescat, why wouldn't I throw in a cheeky Clemency? It takes some of the pressure off them. As a former healer main in other games, I'd rather have my tanks try and make my life easier than see big damage spikes which force me to react to.

[Kanitezz]

I don't get why healers would be annoyed.. I mean sure it's their job to heal but if I'm lowish on health, mass pulled and popped Requiescat, why wouldn't I throw in a cheeky Clemency? It takes some of the pressure off them. As a former healer main in other games, I'd rather have my tanks try and make my life easier than see big damage spikes which force me to react to.

I use to be one of those people who got annoyed if PLDs used clemency at all when I healed. But with the changes this expansion, it became even more clear to me that its just part of their/our survival kit. Same as their defensive CDs. Spamming it isnt needed, but it doesnt hurt anyone for you to throw a couple casts of it in.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

I'd rather have my tanks try and make my life easier than see big damage spikes which force me to react to.

That's what tank Cooldowns are for. And you're a healer you're supposed to react to damage spikes if you do nothing then it's pretty much gg.

[Aiph]

Depends on playstyle but I will clemency because it works well on the rotation. AoE, AoE that restored MP, Clemency.

On the aside, I don’t use that many OGCD if paired with a WHM until I know the stuns no longer work.

The ideal situation for PLD and WHM is wall to wall pull, hit a defensive then use the above. If WHM is on the ball, the spell rotation is regen, holy, cure 2, holy, slight pause, holy.

At this point tank hits next cool down while WHM lays barrier and regen then a few more holy temperance or whatever else. Stuff should be around dead if the other DD are any good (just before the 2nd regen goes out). For the big pulls (last pull in amarot story, 1st pull in amarot library and 2nd pull after 1st boss in twinning), PLD would invincible so just holy spam until it wears off then lay down that barrier.

Another thing I can’t stress enough though is to ducking sprint before engaging. You maximize sprint time, lower damage taken and tell the rest of the party, “I’mma gonna take the while damn thing so watch aggro and AoE”

[JohnSeal]

I really don’t understand you. It’s the dream of any healer to find PLDs in dungeon that spam Clemency so you can continue to dps in peace. You won’t need any gcd heal if things go smooth enough (:

[Shurrikhan]

I really don’t understand you. It’s the dream of any healer to find PLDs in dungeon that spam Clemency so you can continue to dps in peace. You won’t need any gcd heal if things go smooth enough (:

It's really just a matter of whether the tank or healer will generate a larger cost.

Losing a Req-HC costs its opportunity gain over a regular AoE (TE or TE-Prom) or HC, which is worth 125, 205, or 255 potency. Losing out on a (stun-less) Holy in favor of a non-Lily heal is worth a relative 182 AoE potency due to Magick and Mend traits, while using a Lily heal in its place costs 69.5 potency. (Comprehensively, Art of War is worth 208, and Gravity is likewise worth 182.)

So, generally, Lily > Clem > non-Lily, but it still varies further based on PLD damage CDs to be used over the pull, PLD SkS, how many Blood Lilies the WHM has and how many targets will remain to be AoEed when Misery will be castable, and what external buffs are present, especially if not present on both the WHM and PLD.

On the whole, as long as you're not wasting Healer oGCDs, Clemency is a wholly competitive option.

[Rasikko]

Everyone has the right to enure their own survival.

PLDs do this, it doesn't bother me. The DPS might be Tweeddledee and Tweeddledumb and I gotta put their diapers on, meanwhile you're not being healed.. so go for it.