Dear Paladins

[LukaRoselia]

You do not need to spam Clemency every time you go below 95% health. You are probably annoying the crap out of your healer, please stop.

[Cabalabob]

Dear healers,

There’s already 1000 threads on this you don’t need to post new ones, please stop.

[Makarrov]

What’s more likely happening is the paladins are being left at low hp, see the healer casting dps spells and decide to take care of it themselves since the healer can’t be bothered.

[Enkidoh]

What’s more likely happening is the paladins are being left at low hp, see the healer casting dps spells and decide to take care of it themselves since the healer can’t be bothered.

^This. Depends on the situation of course but if my health is dropping below 50% consistantly and the healer is ignoring me to spam DPS spells, I won't hesitate to pop Clemency once or twice as a last resort (especially if the enemy is hitting pretty hard). I won't sit there spamming Clemency otherwise though, as healers are there for a reason and having mained WHM I know how annoying it can be for a healer to have the tank making them redundant. So I can see both sides of the arguement here.

My priority though is to defend the party, and if that means having to take healing into my own hands if absolutely necessary then so be it. But I won't do it otherwise if the healer is on the job and keeping me alive, as that's just wasted MP, wasted time and making healers look unneeded.

Another reason for popping Clemency at nearly full health is to use Divine Veil, as it only activates if you've had a healing spell cast on you (in earlier times where my HP was near full in that situation I would just pop Cure instead as the amount healed would be insignificant and not impact the healer), but I would be still reluctant to do so.

[Misutoraru]

What’s more likely happening is the paladins are being left at low hp, see the healer casting dps spells and decide to take care of it themselves since the healer can’t be bothered.

last time i trust a SCH i end up sleeping on the floor

and last time i run orbonne monastery, I end up solo healing

of cause those are extreme cases, but can't blame me for being cautious

especially since ShB more and more healer become "must DPS at all cost" and forget their first job

[Nedkel]

Sometimes clemency heal us for much more than our healers...

[Deceptus]

I play tons of both roles. It's easy for me to tell when a healer is struggling. Sometimes healers will make risky plays without having a sense for the rhythm of the incoming damage. Sometimes they just won't be using their kits right. That'll make me Clemency.
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This. If I'm in a dungeon mass pulling, all my CD's are down, and I notice the healers struggling, I'd be stupid not to use Clemency.

A dead tank is a dead tank.

[Shirokami]

Sadly I had plenty of runs where healer went "BUT MUH DEEPS!", so of course, I had to do it myself. Ended up being tank and healer both, while healer was just gimped dps - and no amount of explaining that healers do lower dps anyway so his contribution would be miniscule anyway would help.

[Kabooa]

*generates 200,000 global threat for easy mass pulling*

Healer: "StOp ThAt"

[Shurrikhan]

*generates 200,000 global threat for easy mass pulling*

Healer: "StOp ThAt"

(I'm late to the party here, but...)

I remember when that was the only way I could even reach ranged mobs to hold threat to LoS them since the healer insisted on nuke-healing me over nothing while still mid-gather... Good times, is probably not the right description.

And it's not like we had anything else to spend Req on until 72.... Should I deal 110 potency that itself might or might not move the enemies' HP bars by a pixel? Or, heal myself for 50% HP, now that I'm under 30%? Hmmm...