Confirmed: ARR campaign will be pruned

[Astarotha]

where i think they can actually prune is in the unnecessary detours dept, like that one quest where you talk to yshtola, go to eThan, thancred says 2 lines, then you go back to yshtola, that could become a linkshell convo and thancred shows up after a fade to black. talking to that shroud guy 3 times instead of what 6 before fighting him? streamlining a few quests to flow better rather than making them chains like the egg quest, the sandworm quest, the wine quest could all flow better without removing anything, trachtoum sets up a later joke so hes fine.

maybe add some dialogue choices where you get a hilarious response for saying "no" to some peoples fetch quests and the story then progresses to the next part after they go do their own damn chores >P

[Hash_Browns]

I feel this is such a waste of resources.

They should spend their time:

-Separating SCH and SMN entirely so there are no more issues there.

-Adding GNB and DNC glamour.

Q54:
Do you have any plans to add crafted primal weapons for gunbreaker and dancer?
A54:
Sorry, we don't have the free resources to account for this at the moment. The character team might slowly work on it between patches, but I can’t say "we’ll do it."

-Fixing Castrum and Praetorium

-Making other things better like combining the 2 zones for Ul'dah, Limsa, and Gridana

before working on fixing something that isnt broken.

Its possible to complete the ARR quest line in 3 days with the road to x0 bonus.

Plus the story is fun and unique. Sure 5.0 was better, but there is no way they are making 2.0 as good as 5.0 just by "condensing" it.

I feel like you personally think it's a waste because you don't have to deal with it anymore.
Sad truth is that ARR quests are a damn mess. I'm surprised they didn't prune them sooner.

Everything leading up to the end of ARR needs to be pruned, as well as the post-ARR quests leading to HW. Honestly, I remember doing them, and it got to the point for me and several of my friends where when I had finished them & moved on I had to constantly tell them it got better after ARR because it was such a bad experience. One of the people I played with decided it wasn't worth it, and quit entirely. After leaving ARR my friends loved the story, loved the lore, and loved the quests, but we needed out of that blackhole that was ARR first.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

ARR, except all those times that Minfilia asks you to return to the Waking Sands, she instead remembers that she gave you a linkpearl and just informs you of relevant details over the phone.

[MistakeNot]

ARR, except all those times that Minfilia asks you to return to the Waking Sands, she instead remembers that she gave you a linkpearl and just informs you of relevant details over the phone.

Keep in mind that it is possible to eavesdrop on linkpearl conversations, so one might want to avoid discussing sensitive subjects over linkpearls. Probably doesn't apply to all the times people use a linkpearl just to ask you to come talk to them, but still...

[BlitzAceRush]

Guess I'm one of those rare people who actually enjoyed ARR. Yes, the storytelling has gotten better as times gone on and compared to to what came after ARR can feel a little weak but I didn't want to skip it then and still wouldn't now if I ever made an alt. I was a crafter during ARR so I was so focused on it I fell behind, 4 days before HW EA I hadn't even started 2.1, I walked into HW on the eve of the first day of EA, I didn't skip anything read it all, even though I really wanting to get into HW on time I enjoyed doing the post ARR quests and never once felt like it was a chore.

But that's just me, if they prune it, so be it.

[Avidria]

I feel this is such a waste of resources.

They should spend their time:

-Separating SCH and SMN entirely so there are no more issues there.

-Adding GNB and DNC glamour.

Q54:
Do you have any plans to add crafted primal weapons for gunbreaker and dancer?
A54:
Sorry, we don't have the free resources to account for this at the moment. The character team might slowly work on it between patches, but I can’t say "we’ll do it."

-Fixing Castrum and Praetorium

-Making other things better like combining the 2 zones for Ul'dah, Limsa, and Gridana

before working on fixing something that isnt broken.

Its possible to complete the ARR quest line in 3 days with the road to x0 bonus.

Plus the story is fun and unique. Sure 5.0 was better, but there is no way they are making 2.0 as good as 5.0 just by "condensing" it.

See, and I think a lot of those things wouldn't be a good use of resources - and some are in fact changes I wouldn't even want at all. The only one I definitely hope they add is DNC/GNB glamour, because I would love some Sophia chakrams.

Nobody is ever fully going to agree on what the devs should be focusing or spending time on, but this particular change is something that, imo, needs to happen if they don't want to scare off new players more and more often as the game gets bigger. Knowing there's a wall of 100+ quests between the first level 50 quest and the first expansion ALONE really freaking sucks. It sucked when I was a new player, and that was four years ago.

[snarkomatic]

But FFXIV isn't just a story-driven RPG, it is also a massively multiplayer online game. There are a ton of reasons to play it, and it has a ton of content for people to enjoy. Some people like running Eureka. Some people like simply running dungeons with their friends. Some want to see every inch of the game world. Some are massive lore freaks who enjoy analyzing every cutscene and quest.

But everyone enjoys being able to enjoy the content that is currently populated and hyped. Putting a 300 hour barrier between a new player and that content is super dismaying, and there's no guarantee they'll enjoy all the different plot arcs just because you did. It's one thing to muscle through something you're not enjoying because you anticipate Shadowbringers' story. It's another to muscle through that content because you're force to, to get into a dungeon where you can use your new toys, or to join your friends in their raid static.

I'd rather someone plays the story because they want to and because they enjoy it, personally. FFXIV always had the option of being a single player game, and they chose to make it an MMO. You can't just pretend everything that people want out of the genre just disappears because this one happens to have an involved MSQ.

This.

I'm here because I love well-made MMOs, and I've been burned on the two other big names in the ring right now. I enjoy this game. I look forward to spending a LOT of time on this game. But I should just go somewhere else and be unhappy there, because I didn't like the 100-quest horror show that ARR was, and struggle recommending the game to my other MMO friends because I worry they'll hit that wall and quit (the way I did, twice before now)?

Seems a little .. hostile.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

This.

I'm here because I love well-made MMOs, and I've been burned on the two other big names in the ring right now. I enjoy this game. I look forward to spending a LOT of time on this game. But I should just go somewhere else and be unhappy there, because I didn't like the 100-quest horror show that ARR was, and struggle recommending the game to my other MMO friends because I worry they'll hit that wall and quit (the way I did, twice before now)?

Seems a little .. hostile.

And demanding an MMO to change and cater to a specific person's likes and dislikes, to detriment of others, isn't?

Telling you and others to find another MMO that suits you isn't a hostile attack. People are actually doing you a favor and telling you not to spend any more sub money on this.

[Ruinfeild]

As the game continues there will be things that need to be pruned and that is even beyond ARR at some point. That or give more xp boost's over skip potions. I don't care much for how they do it (since I got a main already) but the big thing they mentioned which I can see happening is the break down of Cast/Prat being broken down which would be welcome (at least until I get everything to 80 so I can soak up that sweet sweet xp from roulette).

[snarkomatic]

And demanding an MMO to change and cater to a specific person's likes and dislikes, to detriment of others, isn't?

Telling you and others to find another MMO that suits you isn't a hostile attack. People are actually doing you a favor and telling you not to spend any more sub money on this.

Respectfully, I did not "demand" anything change about this game. I saw this thread, and noted my support of the idea, because of my own personal experiences with the content --which clearly, many other people share, including many veteran players. Thanks for just telling me to leave though, even though I like so so so so so much about the game and will definitely be spending sub money on it regardless of your advice. c:


(Also, in what way would condensing bad fetch-quest-filler into competent storytelling, or making some of the fetch-quest-filler optional content ... be detrimental to anyone at all?)