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    IncubusKing's Avatar
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    Toxic Hunting Community & Bullying

    So as a long time Sargatanas player and a active hunter I need to point this one issue out because today I got personally targeted by it.
    I'm sure if you're a player on the Aether data center you know that there is a popular discord/community for hunts. specifically www.aetherhunts.net
    I got kicked out from it for the 3rd time today simply because I said I wanted to hear about the <pos> of enemies to be relayed, cause the conductor was toxic and I had them blacklisted.
    That aside, the main issue was that the conductor was the owner of said discord/community.

    This is in no way a personal issue or a matter to me, the issue is that this person has has this personal toxic attitude towards me for the entirety of the past year. I quit the game months ago because the harassment I received from them and their community members was too much. Why did i get targeted? Because one of their friends didn't like me, and they spread a rumor about me saying i was toxic and unwelcome everywhere. Their way of fixing this issue; giving they had a very successful and popular group of people from both Sargatanas and other servers inside Aether it wasn't an issue to them to just spread in their link-shells and discord that I was a nuisance and that I should be blacklisted by everyone. I was not to join any of their hunts and no one bothered to listen to my side, simply because she was the leader that acted innocent in this matter.

    Not only that, but actually spreading this both inside the game and outside is a bit too much, given I'm just one person that asked for a positional of a hunt. I also wasn't sure where to post this since there was no harassment related discussion tab. But this is a serious issue to have in a very community driven game. I have went suicidal because the stress and depression i got from being shunned and banned from even trying to have fun in the game was absurd.
    I am just one, but I'm sure there are others that have been seeing similar treatment to me. I simply wanted to voice this out so people knew the real side to aetherhunts.

    Be vary and have fun in the game.

    Edit: I posted this because a GM recommended I do in the forums. Its in no way an attack towards said person or community.

    Edit 2: I'm no longer replying on this thread, because people are being overly aggressive and being toxic even here, and not seeing the good in this post but rather start drama and asks questions or proof when they themselves do not post anything but false rumors and continue to attack and bully.

    Edit 3: Would also like to point out no one questions the rumors themselves but everyone comes to question me, because the power of being a leader is being abused and the rule of the said discord is 'Mods have the right to do whatever they want.' There is no way to fight it because everyone taking my side has gotten kicked, and it was even voiced by the leader themselves. They really don't let people think freely do they?

    Edit 4: Said person approached me trying to coax me into talking on discord trying to escape in-game chat logs to threaten me, saying they would report me for my actions but had nothing to say when I pointed out that they harassed me and sent people my way. Really shows how desperate some people get to cover up for their mistakes and try to abuse their power further. There is nothing wrong with me blacklisting a toxic person, so I welcome people to report me because I blacklisted someone, as that was their reasoning.

    Last Edit: Never to look at this thread again, since people completely missed the point; I have been accused of making this post as a witchcraft and that my depression and suicidal state when I had let the toxicity affect me at the start was apparently me playing innocent. The posts spreading rumors have since the start of this thread been deleted because it was, indeed, a personal attack and harassment and glad this was noticed by some. Again, just goes to show how much of a 'friendly' community they are and they refuse to apologize for their toxic actions and will continue to harass players that is trying to openly speak for themselves because they don't enjoy the truth.
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    Last edited by IncubusKing; 08-11-2019 at 06:27 PM. Reason: typos

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    Arale's Avatar
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    Some of the hunt community on Sarg was ultra toxic last time I was there in SB. Super glad to be far away from it. Hopefully you can get this resolved, but there's always other ways to go about hunts. Smaller LS's for example.
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    I think you should stop using the word 'toxic'. It doesn't fit well on this scenario and I don't even know why you wanted to use the word to imply to this community.
    You can just move on and start afresh, join other hunt LS and do hunts as regular players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xinxin0205 View Post
    I think you should stop using the word 'toxic'. It doesn't fit well on this scenario and I don't even know why you wanted to use the word to imply to this community.
    You can just move on and start afresh, join other hunt LS and do hunts as regular players.
    I believe the term 'toxic' is exactly the right word to use in this. In my experience I use the term because I have been targeted by people to harass verbally and have gotten countless threats to leave the server as well as have rumors spread about me which aren't true. What would you call it, if not toxic?
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    I can confirm that GMs will tell players to make post on the forums in an attempt to sort things out within the community.

    I also understood what you said in the original post and did not need more detail but thanks for that.

    If telling someone to get over an issue that happened a year ago is toxic then I am the worst person around. I personally believe that actions speak volumes and eye for an eye. If an action was taken that negatively affected a community, then said action will have a result that is unfavorable towards said person. Hate bequest hate and that being said, the more you argue and dig this up, the more people are going to fight it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testiment View Post
    I can confirm that GMs will tell players to make post on the forums in an attempt to sort things out within the community.

    I also understood what you said in the original post and did not need more detail but thanks for that.

    If telling someone to get over an issue that happened a year ago is toxic then I am the worst person around. I personally believe that actions speak volumes and eye for an eye. If an action was taken that negatively affected a community, then said action will have a result that is unfavorable towards said person. Hate bequest hate and that being said, the more you argue and dig this up, the more people are going to fight it.
    The thing is, no one is arguing with anyone. I will repeat this again, I purely made this post because I was recommended to do it.
    I have no issues and never did with said person, all I did was write about it since it was recommended I do so.
    If anything I reply seems like an argument that's not the case. I'm simply fixing any misunderstanding there is by further explaining my reasoning.
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    I am also confused as to why being kicked from a discord is an in game issue and required a GM notification. IF in game issues were happening a year ago, why did you not report it then?

    Also, your original post (before edit) had the persons name in it. That alone was targeted harassment. Given the situation at hand I lost faith in your post when you did that. Considering I have been personally targeted by people in an attempt to block me from getting hunts, I believe that you can resolve issues in game between each other if you just talked it out. Granted in my case I just kind of talked to everyone other than the 2 or 3 people that refused to hear anything to do with me. Spreading a good name other than attacking a person is normally the best action to dismiss rumors (IF they were false to begin with).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testiment View Post
    I am also confused as to why being kicked from a discord is an in game issue and required a GM notification. IF in game issues were happening a year ago, why did you not report it then?

    Also, your original post (before edit) had the persons name in it. That alone was targeted harassment. Given the situation at hand I lost faith in your post when you did that. Considering I have been personally targeted by people in an attempt to block me from getting hunts, I believe that you can resolve issues in game between each other if you just talked it out. Granted in my case I just kind of talked to everyone other than the 2 or 3 people that refused to hear anything to do with me. Spreading a good name other than attacking a person is normally the best action to dismiss rumors (IF they were false to begin with).
    Again, I dont think you really bothered to read my post. I stated that was a personal attack against me but that was not the point of my post; I stated that I got attacked in game by people that read her false rumors and openly threatened me to leave the server. I was merely suggesting that that was the cause the attacks happened.
    This is seriously going no where however, cause the more I point obvious things people just take the popular persons side, cause again, it benefits them. And they do not wish to see the good in my post, but rather see it as some sort of witch-hunt when it isnt. Its merely an eye opening post I made with the recommendation of a GM because this is toxic behavior.
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    Not particularly enthused with many of the ppl in the community discord (in that I find them personally grating - it's probably mutual even), but given what actually happened and how you're laughably trying to spin it so you're the victim (itt and prior), it's worth noting that you entirely caused this by your own action and I'd imagine people are mostly just sick of your shit by now.

    It's pretty low to libel an external community effort with some hidden truths bullshit while purposefully obscuring your role in causing it.
    I sure don't feel inclined to believe you based on your omissions & behaviour in this thread at the least. It's not personal? It 100% is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    Not particularly enthused with many of the ppl in the community discord (in that I find them personally grating - it's probably mutual even), but given what actually happened and how you're laughably trying to spin it so you're the victim (itt and prior), it's worth noting that you entirely caused this by your own action and I'd imagine people are mostly just sick of your shit by now.

    It's pretty low to libel an external community effort with some hidden truths bullshit while purposefully obscuring your role in causing it.
    I sure don't feel inclined to believe you based on your omissions & behavior in this thread at the least. It's not personal? It 100% is.
    Again, people listening to false rumors saying I started some drama, no. I simply asked for a <pos> and people attacked me because of the request. Because the person conducting the train wished to spread false rumors about me and this made people be vulgar towards me.
    Whatever you're trying to do here is harassment, as my post is purely to help people being harassed like me, not an argument like you're trying start here. You can do that elsewhere.
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