Regarding MSQ Roulette bug and MSQ Roulette

[BigTough]

Not getting specific here about this other than it's a reportable offence/possibly bannable for exploiting the game. Don't do it.

Dear SE,

What if you add a secondary MSQ roulette with less reward. We get that the high reward for the current one is given for all the waiting around we have to do throughout the cut scenes. So why not add the old MSQ roulette that we used to have as a secondary roulette for only those who have already completed the MSQ and make the cutscenes skippable. ?

Edit: people will STILL do the MSQ roulette with unskippable cutscenes for the high reward payout and newbs will still get their que, calm down. It's a suggestion that offers an additional option for certain players. It's okay to do that. It's okay.

[Vidu]

Because your reward isnt what this roulette is about.
Its about getting people into those dungeons so newbies can complete them.

[BigTough]

Because your reward isnt what this roulette is about.
Its about getting people into those dungeons so newbies can complete them.

For a lot of people, the main scenario roulette isn't even an option anymore because of how time-consuming it is and that makes for one less roulette a day they will no longer reap any rewards, so yeah, rewards are part of the issue here. Newbies will still be able to clear msq if they maintain the current roulette because people are still doing it, people are just REALLY unhappy about unskippable cutscenes, but many will go through with it anyway simply for the high reward payout, while others would be happy with less for no cutscenes.

Edit: And how can you say roulette isn't about reward? That's the whole point of players spending 50 minutes re-running that roulette at all, BECAUSE of the REWARD.

[Vidu]

For a lot of people, the main scenario roulette isn't even an option anymore because of how time-consuming it is and that makes for one less roulette a day they will no longer reap any rewards, so yeah, rewards are part of the issue here. Newbies will still be able to clear msq if they maintain the current roulette because people are still doing it, people are just REALLY unhappy about unskippable cutscenes, but many will go through with it anyway simply for the high reward payout, while others would be happy with less for no cutscenes.

Those people have several options that give less exp but dont have any cutscenes at all to choose from.

Those who are willing to suffer through the cutscenes for the high reward help new people to get through the dungeons - and those who dont want to suffer through the cutscenes can get their exp or tomes many other ways. I dont see a reason to adjust this roulette - dont wanna see the cutscenes? Dont do it.

[Ardox]

Another one of these?

Reasons
1. No cutscence = No inflated Rewards
2. Cutscenes are unskippable for new player to enjoy the dungeon
3. Making cutscenes skippable in certain situations would lead to players to force that situation to happen (e.g. Skippable if all veterans)
4. Roulette exist with inflated reward so veteran would deign to the content for new players
5. You don't have to do content you don't like

[Akonyl]

For a lot of people, the main scenario roulette isn't even an option anymore because of how time-consuming it is and that makes for one less roulette a day they will no longer reap any rewards, so yeah, rewards are part of the issue here. Newbies will still be able to clear msq if they maintain the current roulette because people are still doing it, people are just REALLY unhappy about unskippable cutscenes, but many will go through with it anyway simply for the high reward payout, while others would be happy with less for no cutscenes.

Edit: And how can you say roulette isn't about reward? That's the whole point of players spending 50 minutes re-running that roulette at all, BECAUSE of the REWARD.

You shouldn't have to do every roulette every day, not being able to do every one is fine.

The point of the MSQ roulette is to get people into that old mandatory content which would otherwise have abysmal queues for people who are going through MSQ for the first time, and the rewards are meant as an incentive, they aren't the actual point. Creating a cutscene-skippable roulette would just draw people away from the roulette that lets newbies experience the dungeons more properly, SE probably cares more about that than getting the people currently avoiding MSQ roulette to do it in the skip roulette.

That also creates the question of "what would happen to newbies queueing for the dungeon?", would they be randomly queued into one or the other? Would the skippable version only be for people who had already completed the quest?

[Tsalmaveth]

Let me explain:

-let cut scenes be skippable = no extra bonus = no high level players will queue for it (this option will not get people to pick it and thus... the new players will not get help if they select it, nor would they want to select it if they want to see the story... those who don't care might select it but again, they high levels who want to goodies won't be there soooooo...)

-noskip cut scenes = big rewards to make up for all that lost time = what the high level players want for all that juicy exp and tomes BUT... muh TIME ew CUT SCENES cue the complaining once again regardless of the new players who want to see the story...

I mean, they created this situation for the sole reason of high level players basically forcing new players to skip the cut scenes and missing the story. There is no 'vote to skip' because people will be bullied or kicked for not 'doing what they should and skipping'... and there is no 'skip if there is no new person' because people will flat out kick newbies for the same reason. It is the way it is BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF THE PLAYERS in the past. Deal with it or don't run the content.

[Halivel]

Aaaaand how exactly should it work..? Just for understading, right now there is no roulette (except Mentor) that has repeatable dungeons in it. And where it has (again, Mentor) - they work in the same way as they do in other roulettes.

And now look what we would have:
- One person uses MSQ with unskippable scenes because they want more rewards
- Another person uses MSQ with skippable scenes because they want their rewards faster
- One person is 1st timer and doesn't have MSQ at all. Question: in which party should they end up their playing, considering that the dungeon itself is the same?

Even if it's possible to separate skippable version from unskippable+1st time: is it worth? There is possibility to cope dungeon and make two versions that are the same but have different settings for cut scenes, but once again: is it worth?

Not to mention the reason why MSQ roulette exists to begin with, which makes two separate roulettes quite senseless. There is a reason why they made this change in the first place,and this reason, actually, is in this community: people rushed MSQ DR, bullying those who didn't want to skip cutscenes. Because "go watch journal" is bullying since people forced new players to skip the content and broke their game process. You don't like the roulette because it's long? Don't do this, it's simple. There are plenty of players who is ready to pay 15 minutes more per day and get more shinies for helping new player to get their MSQ experience.

[BigTough]

Those people have several options that give less exp but dont have any cutscenes at all to choose from.

Those who are willing to suffer through the cutscenes for the high reward help new people to get through the dungeons - and those who dont want to suffer through the cutscenes can get their exp or tomes many other ways. I dont see a reason to adjust this roulette - dont wanna see the cutscenes? Dont do it.

But I want to do it, I just don't always want 50 minutes of cutscenes, same as many other people, deal with it. Nothing wrong with asking or suggesting. Deal with people asking for things too. There is literally nothing wrong with this suggestion, newbs will still get their que, and players will still get their rewards, I think you are disagreeing for the sake of argument. smh

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I just want the old roulette with the old rewards.