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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Just bored about the same answers we have again and again concerning "memory data restrictions". They can't just add a simple beard....come on.....
    Look at how the current beards are implemented: toggle options in the "other features" menu. They're unique to the face, and need to change shape depending on the settings you've chosen for the jawline.

    Adding more toggles means adding extra data to the character, and that's something they're avoiding doing. It would affect a lot of parts of the game, including presumably the legacy code they don't like to fiddle with and tend to build around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Just bored about the same answers we have again and again concerning "memory data restrictions". They can't just add a simple beard....come on.....

    I hoped they would add options and customization for every races (now the 2 last races are available) but with this kind of answer i'm just disapointed cause a beard is just like a hairstyle, so what the trouble?

    They are just lazy? SE doesn't want to invest in their game cause FF7 with its 20 dlc eats all our subs and cash shop bills?

    During years we had some "ps3 limitations" for most of everything, now what? Ps4/5/10?
    It definitely is a stupid thing how these guys can't do what every other MMO in existence can.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Apparently "legacy hairstyles" meant viera specific. Using the definition of legacy, maybe more viera hair from the other games or concepts we've seen? I don't even know what they looked like either way. People were definitely completely confused.
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    I don’t even play a male character, and I’m quite disappointed in the “no male beard/stubble. Too hard.” I’m experienced in programming and reverse engineering, but I have 0 experience in in-game character models.

    Literally, how hard is it to poke tiny dots on a male’s face and call it a stubble? If anyone is experienced in character model editing, and aren’t just talking out their rear, please inform me as to why this is a difficult task.

    Oh boy. I wish I could skip work with the same “it’s too hard” excuse lol
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    I don’t even play a male character, and I’m quite disappointed in the “no male beard/stubble. Too hard.” I’m experienced in programming and reverse engineering, but I have 0 experience in in-game character models.

    Literally, how hard is it to poke tiny dots on a male’s face and call it a stubble? If anyone is experienced in character model editing, and aren’t just talking out their rear, please inform me as to why this is a difficult task.

    Oh boy. I wish I could skip work with the same “it’s too hard” excuse lol
    Unfortunately male characters are treated like second class citizens in this game at times. It doesn't help that Yoshi-P plays a female character himself and expressed joy and enthusiasm in response to a question about Y'shtola's outfit being added. If only that same enthusiasm could be channeled into adding more facial hair as customisation options. It's been a common request for years now and seeing them take the time to give it to to the Warrior of Light in promotional footage serves to rub salt into wounds.

    I'm hoping they stick to their plan of looking into it further.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 08-08-2019 at 09:44 AM.

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    Regana Redwyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Unfortunately male characters are treated like second class citizens in this game at times. It doesn't help that Yoshi-P plays a female character himself and expressed joy and enthusiasm in response to a question about Y'shtola's outfit being added. If only that same enthusiasm could be channeled into adding more facial hair as customisation options. It's been a common request for years now and seeing them take the time to give it to to the Warrior of Light in promotional footage serves to rub salt into wounds.
    Oh, they are not. Both genders have things that don't flatter them. Lots of WHM robes on guys look ridiculous and lots of tank armor on gals look ludicrously bulky. Each gender and subrace has hairstyles to fit your look and ones you'll hate.

    At least male characters don't have to run around in miniskirts showing off their underwear till at least lvl 5 when they first start the game. I'd also bring up subligers, but I think those mortify both genders equally. But there's no development bias for or against male or female character models in this game.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Oh, they are not. Both genders have things that don't flatter them. Lots of WHM robes on guys look ridiculous and lots of tank armor on gals look ludicrously bulky. Each gender and subrace has hairstyles to fit your look and ones you'll hate.

    At least male characters don't have to run around in miniskirts showing off their underwear till at least lvl 5 when they first start the game. I'd also bring up subligers, but I think those mortify both genders equally. But there's no development bias for or against male or female character models in this game.
    We'll just have to agree to disagree on that. I wasn't solely referring to glamour options, either, I was speaking in regards to a lot of factors and design decisions over the years as well as a dismissive attitude towards questions detailing male customisation options.

    That Highlander men cannot have proper eyebrows but the women can is but one example of what I am getting at.

    Historically a lot of those who say it isn't an issue gravitate towards playing female characters for the most part, too. Usually either exclusively or at least more often than they play a male character. That isn't a dig at you, specifically, but just something I've observed over the years.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 08-08-2019 at 10:28 AM.

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    Luna Nattvind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It doesn't help that Yoshi-P plays a female character himself and expressed joy and enthusiasm in response to a question about Y'shtola's outfit being added.
    On a highly serious note, Y'shtola's outfit being added IS a huge thing to be hyped and enthusiastic about, like have you seen it? I wanted it as a glam since the first moment I saw it, it is so beautiful and definitely something I would LOVE to own IRL as well...
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    No male vieras
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Female vieras will never get acces to the hairstyles all races do. Then, we also know DNC and GNB wont get acces to the coolest looking weapon sets in the game, at least for a long time.
    1) No, that's not at all what they said. What they said is that hairstyles will be unique to Viera/Hrothgar, due to the way they were implemented. That doesn't mean they can't make Hrothgar/Viera versions of existing hairstyles.

    2) I'm not sure what you're referring to about GNB and DNC "not getting the coolest weapon sets"? I couldn't find anything in the LL about that.

    And also... you find 3 things you're disappointed about and so you decide the entire LL was disappointing? There was a lot of good stuff in the LL.
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