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    GNB sound change not mentioned in the liveletter

    opinion fellas?

    not sure what much more we can do other than complain and suggest in game,but at the moment it feels like they wont address this and quietly sweep it under the rug.
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    I'm hoping they at least do something if they wont recognize it or talk about it with us. This is prolly the most BS thing I've seen them do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
    I'm hoping they at least do something if they wont recognize it or talk about it with us. This is prolly the most BS thing I've seen them do.
    To be fair they basically told all ast, to suck it even though every region has unanimously been unhappy with the job.
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    These new sounds are not different. They are simpy extremely bad. Failed design. One handed blade cannot sound like a very heavy blunt hammer. I simply cannot believe that someone in dev team thought it was good idea. It's almost like they did it on purpose to punish us (that vocal minority) for complaining in the first place.

    It simply cannot be accepted. I often hear when people say 'Yeah job is fun but sound design is very bad". Keep discussing about it, keep sending suggestions, spread the word on the internet. This is far from over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cetek14 View Post
    These new sounds are not different. They are simpy extremely bad. Failed design. One handed blade cannot sound like a very heavy blunt hammer. I simply cannot believe that someone in dev team thought it was good idea. It's almost like they did it on purpose to punish us (that vocal minority) for complaining in the first place.

    It simply cannot be accepted. I often hear when people say 'Yeah job is fun but sound design is very bad". Keep discussing about it, keep sending suggestions, spread the word on the internet. This is far from over.
    Agreed, the job may play fine but I'm not going to just forget how it was released and its intended sound design just like that. I still feel so blah when I'm doing raids and junk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Because a number of players in the Japanese base are content with the changes, granted some do think a one or two things could still be adjusted again but not so much that it's a priority requiring an immediate fix. It's just not that important enough when other things need attention.


    You seen their forums lately? There's more upset with the new sounds atm than what seems like there were before. Eve with this, you'd think the other things mechanically broken would take more attention than changing the GNB sounds only 3 weeks into the new expansion.
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    Because a number of players in the Japanese base are content with the changes, granted some do think a one or two things could still be adjusted again but not so much that it's a priority requiring an immediate fix. It's just not that important enough when other things need attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
    You seen their forums lately? There's more upset with the new sounds atm than what seems like there were before. Eve with this, you'd think the other things mechanically broken would take more attention than changing the GNB sounds only 3 weeks into the new expansion.
    Yes I have read them (your attempt at Google translate is only giving you half the story with your thread) and the opinion on the sounds is not as bad as westerners are making it out to be, but again it's not a priority. Could the sounds be adjusted yeah JP could accept that, but reverted completely no as they were changed for a reason to begin with.


    Quote Originally Posted by Days_In_The_Sun View Post
    既存のSEを全く別のSEへと差替えるのは流石に早計ではないかと思いました。

    ユーザーの要望に応えて、迅速に手を加えたことは、素晴らしい対応であると思います。

    しかし、音の調整に関しては、個人の好みに依るところがあるため、合理的に善し悪しを照らし合わせられるものでは無いですし、今回のように、全くの別物に差し替えてしまうのは、元々のSEが好きだった人に対しては、悪影響になるということを考慮していなかったのでしょうか。

    私自身はSEに対する特別な拘りはありません。ですので、差替えられた新SEの感触についての善し悪しについては語りません。
    ですが、今回の新SEは、実際にプレイしていて支障をきたすレベルで違和感を覚えます。
    まず、パーティープレイの場において、他の音が混ざる環境であると、ガンブレイカーの新SEが低音であるため、自身の攻撃音が聴こえません。その為、攻撃動作と音が連動している感覚が掴めず、攻撃している感覚がありません。
    私自身のプレイ環境にも問題はあるかと思われますが、自分の効果音100%、パーティー・他者の効果音50%で今までプレイしてきましたが、パーティー・他者の効果音を50%に下げた状態の環境ですら、自身の攻撃音が聴き取りにくいほどに今のガンブレイカーのSEは低音です。

    SEはユーザーが選択できるものでもなければ、任意で差替えられるものでもないため、流石にここまで大きく手を加えるべきではなかったと思います。
    手を加えるのであれば、旧SEの爆発音を調整するなど、旧SEから大きく逸れることのない、細かな単位で音を調整して頂きたかったです。


    This player pretty much hits on the head. They understand a change was needed but at the same time, some of the sounds could be adjusted again for certain actions.
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    Last edited by Kurando; 08-08-2019 at 12:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Yes I have read them (your attempt at Google translate is only giving you half the story with your thread) and the opinion on the sounds is not as bad as westerners are making it out to be, but again it's not a priority. Could the sounds be adjusted yeah JP could accept that, but reverted completely no as they were changed for a reason to begin with.





    This player pretty much hits on the head. They understand a change was needed but at the same time, some of the sounds could be adjusted again for certain actions.
    the change achieved nothing tho, instead of balancing the high end and lower end of the sounds they just cut the high end and jacked up the explosion sound.even the explosion sounds are nothing spectacular in my opinion they all sound too similar,have you tried playing it in content? barely anything can be heard against the sound of mechanics and other effects its honestly terrible.

    it feels like a rushed out band aid to shut ppl up quickly but created more problems than fixing them
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    Last edited by trash_cat; 08-08-2019 at 01:44 AM. Reason: added quote

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    What kurando linked maybe just the minority i looked at the topic over at JP side and there are more ppl still against the changes. Even, a few pages back there are more likes garnered asking for the previous Sound effect instead. Well at least for the keen edge combo.
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    I'm very disappointed that it wasn't addressed but I'm also not surprised.

    Hopefully if we continue to make our voices heard they will eventually change the sounds back to their original design. For now though I keep trying to play the job but I just can't. The sound is just so bad that it is actually jarring during gameplay. I decided to level and learn tanking on Paladin instead.
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