Square enix headed in the same direction blizzard did with WoW.

[Dynia]

Says who ? Woke, clueless game "journos" ?



The story is as bland and boring as ever, with very few good points from time to time - again, as always. Subjectively, HW still holds the crown imo.



Again subjective. No opinion from me, as I play the game bgm-muted. One can tolerate looping of the same - at best medicore, exceptions aside - stuff only as much.



The primary issue is enormous dumbing down this game brought with ShB (not only in context of healers) - and coming from this boredom, not the dps discrepancies (although these are pretty bad and obvious as well).

When you see supposed developers saying that "rotation with hagakure was too complex", then you know the game is going in rather poor direction.

https://www.everyonewhocares.com/art...shadowbringers
https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/f...shadowbringers
https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...ringers-review
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...currently_the/

also lot of ppls on forum posted Shb was best expansion so far
say what ? story was boring ? do we play same game ?
the whole truth about ascians and minifia story ... was boring for you ?

same about soundtrack lot of ppls on THIS forum said it was best so far and many ppls in game chat said same ... so yeah shity expanion ...
tell me what story you find interesting then ? or you just troling ...

[Ubbernaut]

https://www.everyonewhocares.com/art...shadowbringers
https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/f...shadowbringers
https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...ringers-review
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...currently_the/

also lot of ppls on forum posted Shb was best expansion so far
say what ? story was boring ? do we play same game ?
the whole truth about ascians and minifia story ... was boring for you ?

same about soundtrack lot of ppls on THIS forum said it was best so far and many ppls in game chat said same ... so yeah shity expanion ...
tell me what story you find interesting then ? or you just troling ...

Think some of the trolls smelled blood and now are creeping up into the Healer discussions.

But it's a big mistake to think the Healer forums are negative and on-fire because we genuinely hate the game. At least I don't get such vibes from the majority of posters, even in the strongest salt and vitriol critiques of the shitty changes and behavior.

[Lodi]

But it's a big mistake to think the Healer forums are negative and on-fire because we genuinely hate the game. At least I don't get such vibes from the majority of posters, even in the strongest salt and vitriol critiques of the shitty changes and behavior.

Indeed, if we hated the game, we wouldn't be playing.

If we complain, it's because our favourite classes took a direction we do not enjoy; and we wish to see the devs acknowledge their poor decisions, and decide to change things for the better.
None of that happened yet.

I, for one, was not impressed by the WHM changes, disappointed by the AST, and outright disgusted by the SCH. Not to mention my disappointment to see yet another DPS instead of a much needed healer.
An expansion is supposed to get us all hyped, but ShB failed immensely regarding the healer playerbase. The amount of healer threads on this forum is a good indicator of the general reception.

I post here because I want to love my role, but ShB makes me hate it with a passion.
I want to do more than pressing the same button over and over on every single fight in the game no matter the level.

[Dynia]

Indeed, if we hated the game, we wouldn't be playing.

If we complain, it's because our favourite classes took a direction we do not enjoy; and we wish to see the devs acknowledge their poor decisions, and decide to change things for the better.
None of that happened yet.

I, for one, was not impressed by the WHM changes, disappointed by the AST, and outright disgusted by the SCH. Not to mention my disappointment to see yet another DPS instead of a much needed healer.
An expansion is supposed to get us all hyped, but ShB failed immensely regarding the healer playerbase. The amount of healer threads on this forum is a good indicator of the general reception.

I post here because I want to love my role, but ShB makes me hate it with a passion.
I want to do more than pressing the same button over and over on every single fight in the game no matter the level.

ok you may hate your healer role I get it, but story and lore is diffrent thing from gameplay and classes status
you know there are some ppls who sub only for 30 days just for story and later don't do any eng game content

Like I said before for me Shb story and music is strong 10/10 ...

[tikiwiki]

ok you may hate your healer role I get it, but story and lore is diffrent thing from gameplay and classes status
you know there are some ppls who sub only for 30 days just for story and later don't do any eng game content

Like I said before for me Shb story and music is strong 10/10 ...

and thats my issue with shb the short term content has been great but the long term stuff i have to put up with for two years (the healers) are a mess

[Lodi]

and thats my issue with shb the short term content has been great but the long term stuff i have to put up with for two years (the healers) are a mess

ok you may hate your healer role I get it, but story and lore is diffrent thing from gameplay and classes status
you know there are some ppls who sub only for 30 days just for story and later don't do any eng game content

Like I said before for me Shb story and music is strong 10/10 ...

Yup, the expansion has been amazing. Except when it comes to healers and feedback.

I am going to quit healing, see if I can have fun with other classes, and if I don't then I'll just come back for the story before 6.0 comes. IF 6.0 doesn't further dumb healers down, that is.
I don't have ANY hopes to see them fix their mistakes and begin actually listening to the crazy amount of healer feedback there is. I'll keep an eye on patch notes, but as long as healer gameplay is "spam 1 and heal sometimes when it's necessary" then I am not going back.

[Dynia]

Yup, the expansion has been amazing. Except when it comes to healers and feedback.

I am going to quit healing, see if I can have fun with other classes, and if I don't then I'll just come back for the story before 6.0 comes. IF 6.0 doesn't further dumb healers down, that is.
I don't have ANY hopes to see them fix their mistakes and begin actually listening to the crazy amount of healer feedback there is. I'll keep an eye on patch notes, but as long as healer gameplay is "spam 1 and heal sometimes when it's necessary" then I am not going back.

know your pain WHM was so bad in HW and SB ...
I find paladin rly fun in Shb, gonna try black mage (heard lot of good things about this class) too and give that class a try
im consider to change main too, for pally