Do you think something big is coming? (Calamity scale)

[Shougun]

I've seen it a few times now from interviews with Yoshida, and it could just be a joke he likes but it seems more recent to reference (or perhaps I only noticed it now), but he keeps mentioning things like maybe FFXIV might need another dalamud, summoning the meteor again, Hydaelyn Kick, and I feel a few times more but can't recall enough to reference.. but if someone knows cool lol.

Do you think he's slyly hinting at a huge event to come? Or just a use of language that's fun because eh why not?

I can recall at least three occurrences, although I can only find the source on two.. yay me .. lol. The one I can't find if I recall correctly was about needing another realm reborn to modify some of the early experiences (cataclysm).

Another being a recent interview where he talked about wanting to make the servers all connected (shown desire) but that they might need a Hydaelyn kick to get there. Obviously could just be "so much work we're going to need a god", but I felt at least because of past references it might also be a sly foreshadowing (like "we really want to do this but it's going to take a while... you'll have your servers joined when Hydaelyn does a universe bending super kick, cataclysm 6.0/7.0 look forward to it").

The third clear one I can recall is from a french interview where asked how he plans on topping 5.0, and he's like "maybe I'll drop another meteor" lol.

I feel like there are more than that but those are the three that have stuck out more clearly to me, and sort of relate to concepts that might request a cataclysm (huge changes, vs like more clear joke responses).

I'll admit I might have some bias because 1.0 Dalamud in the sky was so cool. Not saying SE took it from Majora's mask or that Majora's mask is the first for doomsday in the sky but both those game's experiences were really fun. That looming.. hanging by a thread dread is a unique feeling. Also looks cool.

Just curious if anyone else feels there is a slow growing shadow on the horizon, years off maybe but lurching forward still. Or counter point that it's just a joke :P.

Also if anyone can help me recall more examples that'd be fabulous .

[Nariel]

Nha, its just a way to say they just can't or would need magic to do it.

Let call it a counter "looking forward to it".

[Edax]

Do you think he's slyly hinting at a huge event to come? Or just a use of language that's fun because eh why not?

It would take a LOT of effort to implement a Calamity. I don't see this happening during Shadowbringer patches. They aren't going to improve housing or fix Viera headgear by pouring their resources on environment aesthetics.

[SenorPatty]

He was making an in-house joke.

It's kind of like how someone playing this game might say something like "This npc better back off or there's gonna be a new astral calamity" or "Game's lagging? Who forgot to feed SE's moogles".

Makes sense wheb talking about the game to someone who knows/play the game. Doesn't make sense anywhere else.

[Shougun]

Don't plan on responding to every it's a joke comments since I'm not sure I can add much but it's not because I think it's wrong lol, I even added it's a reasonable option in the OP. I believe it has merit, just not sure that it's the only truth (as I'll try to expand on sometimes if I can).

It would take a LOT of effort to implement a Calamity. I don't see this happening during Shadowbringer patches. They aren't going to improve housing or fix Viera headgear by pouring their resources on environment aesthetics.

Personally I was suggesting 6.0 / 7.0 due to that reason (in OP I say 6.0 / 7.0). I doubt they'd drop a dalamud mid expansion, that sounds like work taken to the extreme. Though I could easily see them attempting something like that for another expansion (easily in that I can see it happening, not that it's actually an easy task to do).

So I would say I agree to your point but add that I didn't suggest they'd do it during shadowbringers either :P. Might get build up to it by the end of 5.5 though.

He was making an in-house joke.

I was thinking that's possible, of course, but also he's mentioned it in relation to a feature (joined servers), to up the ante for the next expansion (meaning a key feature to the ante), and to address some of the game flow (also meaning it could be a feature and not a joke, the reason for dramatic changes in flow).

So I just mean to say Dalamud (or like event) is not just a potential joke in all of the mentioned situations, it could also very much be a feature/catalyst.

Moogles not working on the server when the server down is clearly a joke because that's all it can be lol, "we've added more moogles to ffxiv" doesn't fix the servers (I think... ).

Meanwhile Dalamud-like concepts could introduce some of the huge changes that usually preface for what Yoshida mentioned, so it becomes perhaps both a joke and a real item.

The jokes you list can only be jokes meanwhile a calamity can actually not be, is what I'm saying I guess. There is potential features in a calamity that makes it potentially more than a joke.

[Makeda]

I think the game would improve if it moved from the source to a world more like the First but without the light having wiped out 90%...

But I can’t think if a good way to do this...

I like that the first feels more like a fantasy world:

1. No magitek. It is just too all over the place on the source
2. No beast tribes. The races are not split into a “these guys are lessors” division. Races that on the source are “beast” in the first are just “that guy over there who runs the shop”.
3. The new races are better mixed in
4. The ancients are not sci-fi high tech, but actually ancient less advanced but still deeply mysterious
5. The lore is just... better... it doesn’t feel patched together as a means to repair a broken game. It feels like a whole piece.

So I want some calamity that resets things and puts us on a first-like world. From interviews we know Yoshi probably also wants this. But I see no good path to get there...


Rather I fear ShB will go down as FFXIV’s worst expac because from here on out we will be running around instanced versions of Garlemad and Damascia (Or whatever Fran’s home was called) that resemble what we got for Ala Migo...

Right now 5.0 was amazing... but it also seems to have concluded the First... and it looks like 5.x is the Xenos expansion... No Calamity, no fully rich zones... just choppy plot wrapups...

Might have to drop a moon on that to get 6.0 out the door...

[Edax]

Right now 5.0 was amazing... but it also seems to have concluded the First... and it looks like 5.x is the Xenos expansion... No Calamity, no fully rich zones... just choppy plot wrapups...

Elidibus standing on the moon plotting to keep the Scions trapped in the First and using other Warriors of Light to attack the Warrior of Darkness implies we'll be stuck in the First for quite some time.

[Arthem]

Not saying SE took it from Majora's mask or that Majora's mask is the first for doomsday in the sky but both those game's experiences were really fun.

Why steal from Majora's mask when they did it 3 years earlier themselves with Final Fantasy VII? lol

[Shougun]

Why steal from Majora's mask when they did it 3 years earlier themselves with Final Fantasy VII? lol

hahaha

"not saying majora mask stole it from ff7 but it was fun". Same feelings, but thanks for reminding me of FF7's meteor.

Mostly I was thinking Majora mask first because dalamud in the sky reminded me a lot of the moon in Majora mask, the imagery was similar while that's not as much for FF7.

You don't really look at the sky in FF7 (top down view). Meanwhile the calamity of FFXIV and Majora Mask felt more similar, that moon present in the sky coming down at you (over a period of time vs cutscene).



Also the point of saying "not saying they stole" was that I didn't think they did, just that they reminded me of each other quite a bit. I wasn't taking away any credit .

[Theodric]

They've joked about it enough that I think there might be something to it.