PF reaches a new low (E1S Reclear)

[Wilford111]

Yeah I wouldn't try pugging any savage fights until next patch when everyone has a lot higher ilvls.

[Fiorinol]

I'm starting to think Aether is in dire needs of some form of public blacklist. The game simply doesn't offer enough options for players to filter, and players overall are very impatient, and will even join your party to bicker in the instance about your strat in your own party that you started.

[Marianno]

I usually just wait until my FC has some people who are at least willing too experience this with me. Like others have said, people bicker about strategies that aren’t from YouTube or if certain jobs aren’t in the party. Just wait a bit too pug when people have a bit higher item level or just go with friends you can okay with often. I’ve gotten people who join my PF only too ask why I am not excluding ninja or samurai. It’s silly lol.

[Raven2014]

eh I 1 shot it with my second party today. Just luck of the draw really.

Also there is a fairly good chance a majority of players after clearing E1S, spent a good chunnk of their time last week clearing E2S or E3S that they might have forgotten E1S at this point.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

But I thought aether was the place to go for raids, especially if you pug. Isn't that what everyone said?

[Fynlar]

>does PUGs, known for failure on anything remotely difficult even when it's ages old
>PUGs fail on said remotely difficult content that's still pretty damn new
>complains about it on forums

[MPK]

But I thought aether was the place to go for raids, especially if you pug. Isn't that what everyone said?

Yup. Crystal doesn't do raids. At any given time they have less than half of total PFs for highend duties than aether or primal

Source: I pug on crystal

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yup. Crystal doesn't do raids. At any given time they have less PFs up for highend duties than aether or primal

Source: I pug on crystal

Well, everyone did bail and run back to aether. The raiding community kinda did that to itself.

Self fulfilling prophecies are great.

[Mikhaill]

Yup. Crystal doesn't do raids. At any given time they have less than half of total PFs for highend duties than aether or primal

Source: I pug on crystal

Welp, that is the community to blame.
Everyone wants to stay away from Icky Balmung and friends with making it a "RP" data center
and then high-tailed it to Aether, and behold, still problems like you would find in any other
center. I expect full-time no wipe or death clears from Aether lmao.

[Raven2014]

But I thought aether was the place to go for raids, especially if you pug. Isn't that what everyone said?

Sarcasm?

Well, it's all relative isn't it?

- If Aether is considered great, it means other servers are good.
- If Aether is considered good, it means other servers are ok.
- If Aerther is bad, that just means others are even worse.

Just different vocabulary. If the OP is speaking the truth (failing 40-50 attemps on a 'reclear') that's pretty extreme. I cleared both E1S and E2S last week with pugs, and in combination it still didn't come anywhere to 50 attemps for a 'first' clear, much less a 'reclear'. And today I 2 shots E1S.

And pugs, we all meme about pugs no matter which server or DC we're on. We are also pugs, and there is no telling if the people mememing is not the meme itself. Back when I was in an FC, there was 2 raid groups while other people needs to pugs. We had some member that constantly mememing about how bad pug is, and how if he has a good group he would clear no-problemnemo. So the people in the raid groups set aside a time to help people like him to get a clear (so they can then join "weekly" clear group instead of continue suffering "clear" group). And behold, it appears abundantly clear to us when we tried to help him that he IS the problem. Kinda made me feel guilty I help gave a license to a player like that to go screw with people who actually got their clear.