PF reaches a new low (E1S Reclear)

[AncientCrystal]

Had at least 40-50 attempts today attempting to reclear E1S. Not a super hard fight, just need to know who your partner and groups are etc. People just can't do it yall. They just can't.

It's like everyone forgot this fight or at least didn't try to rewatch the videos on it.

[Hash_Browns]

Listen. I know this migh be hard to swallow but you can't expect PUGs to clear Eden Savage. They still fail at Innocence in farm parties.

[Demetri_Delethorn]

Listen. I know this migh be hard to swallow but you can't expect PUGs to clear Eden Savage. They still fail at Innocence in farm parties.

Except...they can do it. There's almost always a player or two who brings it down, though. Plenty of people out there are capable of PUGing it, just need to get 8 of them together by chance. Unfortunately, the bad players outweigh the good.

Better to fail in a PUG than actually be a member of a static. Can't imagine that level of embarrassment.

[Fiorinol]

Except...they can do it. There's almost always a player or two who brings it down, though. Plenty of people out there are capable of PUGing it, just need to get 8 of them together by chance. Unfortunately, the bad players outweigh the good.

Better to fail in a PUG than actually be a member of a static. Can't imagine that level of embarrassment.

I run PF parties for Aether fairly often. I helped 4 groups clear E1S last week.

Party Finder players need a big attitude adjustment. You do often get those 1-2 problem players, and when you kick them, the rest of your party elects to go join one of the 10 other parties where the leader will not kick these players. I announce in my PF that I do a macro for positions, and when I throw that macro into chat and ask people to take positions around a marker, there's someone half the time who either refuses to comply or throws their hands up in the air, making the whole process unfun for the 6-7 other people involved.

[Hash_Browns]

Better to fail in a PUG than actually be a member of a static. Can't imagine that level of embarrassment.

Yes, I can't imagine how embarrassing it must be to find players who aren't bad at clearing content, know what they are doing, organizing around everyone's work/sleep schedule, actually helping each other out, and actively enjoy being around each other. I would rather fail a billion times in the "Farm Party" PF groups that fail because they hit Innocence enrage at 30% HP, while trying the point the finger at each other because someone is trying to get carried, sometimes 2 or 3 people.

[Demetri_Delethorn]

Yes, I can't imagine how embarrassing it must be to find players who aren't bad at clearing content, know what they are doing, organizing around everyone's work/sleep schedule, actually helping each other out, and actively enjoy being around each other. I would rather fail a billion times in the "Farm Party" PF groups that fail because they hit Innocence enrage at 30% HP, while trying the point the finger at each other because someone is trying to get carried, sometimes 2 or 3 people.

Treating the game like a job and actually scheduling raid times is pretty embarrassing, yeah. But one should do what one enjoys

[Hash_Browns]

Treating the game like a job and actually scheduling raid times is pretty embarrassing, yeah. But one should do what one enjoys

I don't understand. None of the people I play with treat it like a job.

"When can you guys play, do you wanna prog E2S this week?" doesn't sound like work. We actively enjoy playing with each other, and actively enjoy progressing. The barrier being the timeframe.

[Xatsh]

Treating the game like a job and actually scheduling raid times is pretty embarrassing, yeah. But one should do what one enjoys

This is how endgame content in mmos work. And it is not a job. Does going to a bowling league or any team sporting event make that a job? Why would coming together with your team be work in a mmo then?

Savage and ultimate content is not for pug, simple as that. So need to get a group together and set times to raid. OR you have to wait 1.5-2 months for everyone to ultra outgear the content then pugs work more often then not on earlier tiers.

[HyoMinPark]

Treating the game like a job and actually scheduling raid times is pretty embarrassing, yeah. But one should do what one enjoys

I know this is, like, a 3/10 quality troll post, but yes. It’s obviously embarrassing that 8 people who have separate lives and likely live in different time zones would like to find times that work for all of them so that they can get together and play video games. Obviously.



As for the OP, I literally forgot 75% of E1S’s mechanics already. I cleared it within an hour of going in there on Day 1, and then spent the rest of the week on the other fights. My entire static was kind of like “so uh...how does this fight go again?” when we zoned in today because we were all probably still thinking about Titan strats.

[24spencer]

Is this what top tier healing looks like?