Please exclude the 8-man msq dungeons from mentor roulette...

[Wilford111]

...or increase the rewards for landing on an 8-man msq dungeon in mentor roulette. I just did Mentor Roulette got an in-progress 0 minutes. It was Castrum Meridianum. Both healers were gone, and I was filling in for the tank who just left. This has got to stop.

There are a few potential solutions to this. Either exclude these dungeons from Mentor Roulette, increase the rewards if you happen to get it, make the cutscenes skippable again, rework the dungeons in their entirety, make them solo instances, or of course increase the requirements for becoming a mentor. I know you just increased them, but it's not enough... not by a long shot.

The whole mentor system may be working like a charm in Japan and other areas, but in North America and similar western countries, it's failing. These mentors are way too selfish, rude, or just plain bad. There's a reason most of the good mentors have taken off their crown.

Please. Please Dev Team, please reconsider the mentor requirements.

[DrWho2010]

you know you could have just left without penalty in that situation that you got there?

[Wilford111]

you know you could have just left without penalty in that situation that you got there?

I think you're missing the point of my original post.

[Kurando]

That's Mentor Roulette, you agree to the rewards when you sign up for it. If you get a MSQ duty you could just leave, the 30min penalty is shorter than the 40-50mins you would spend actually running it. Although as mentioned, it was in-prog so you could have left without issue anyway.

[Wilford111]

That's Mentor Roulette, you agree to the rewards when you sign up for it. If you get a MSQ duty you could just leave, the 30min penalty is shorter than the 40-50mins you would spend actually running it. Although as mentioned, it was in-prog so you could have left without issue anyway.

Again, this is missing the point. I'm not upset about getting it in Mentor Roulette, I'm upset about other mentors who leave noobs high and dry to wait around for another to show up. This isn't what being a mentor is about. I think SE should take a serious look at this and see what they could do to fix it. My OP was some mere suggestions.

[DrWho2010]

look this is the way mentor roulette is designed. it's not designed to teach noobs it's designed to fill empty roles quicker. it's not a teaching tool.

[Kurando]

I'm not upset about getting it in Mentor Roulette, I'm upset about other mentors who leave noobs high and dry to wait around for another to show up..

Couple of things. How do you know mentors are the one leaving if you are coming in as the replacement? Like I know a lot of mentors do leave duties but so do non-mentors so let's not put everyone in the same bag eh. Next is regardless of whether someone is a mentor or not, simple fact is the system allows players to leave a duty. Unless players are forced to stay in a duty for a set amount of time or until completion then leavers are gonna leave.

[TheMightyMollusk]

look this is the way mentor roulette is designed. it's not designed to teach noobs it's designed to fill empty roles quicker. it's not a teaching tool.

So you're saying mentor roulette isn't for mentoring?

[Fynlar]

I'm not sure what this gripe has to do with mentor roulette or mentors specifically. You know that the other people in your parties in mentor roulette are not necessarily mentors themselves, right? How do you know the people that left that party were mentors? A lot of people will ditch one or the other because CM is shorter / Prae is more exp, for instance.

Also, as an aside, there is no realistic set of requirements they could make for mentor that I wouldn't still meet, and also would cause me to not leave CM/Prae if I got them in my mentor roulette. People who wouldn't tolerate these sorts of things before are not suddenly going to tolerate them afterward if the requirements for entry were suddenly higher. That's like saying the overall intelligence level of this forum ought to be higher than it would be on a typical free forum just because we have to pay money to be here. (Not how it works in practice, I'm afraid)

[Kreahk]

You can enable a check box not to join an in-progress runs, problem solved?