How many more jobs will we be getting?

[Wilford111]

I imagine it's getting harder and harder to balance the jobs and more and more resources will be spend adding new weapons, skills, quests, and more due to more jobs being added. So when will we be getting our last jobs? Next expansion, or a few more down the road? FFXIV isn't an old mmo but it's just something that's been weighing on my mind.

Do you think Gunbreaker will be the last tank? Do you think we're getting our last healer next expansion (if we get one at all)? Lemme know what you think.

[Theskymarble]

I imagine it just gonna be a healer and caster and ranged at this point. The jobs could be anything at this point I'd imagine healers might be chemists or something and for caster I have no idea since the only ones I could think of is Blue mage as a real job and spell fencer but red mage is kind of rolling with that. As for physical ranged... maybe something that uses crossbows?

[Maero]

I do believe we will get a few more expansions minimum. This game is popular and makes SE $$ for their other game projects.
We at least should be getting a new healer and of course as per usual a plethora of dps

[Jonnycbad]

It used to be jobs were 70-80% unique, with 20-30% overlap in things like
-Gap Closer (Spineshatter Dive, Shoulder Tackle)
-Self mititgation (Second Wind, Perfect Dodge, Keen Flurry)
-Single GCD DoT (Phlebotemize, Touch of Death, Mutilate)

But now jobs are 70-80% homogenous, with 20-30% being their flavor (Jumps, Chakra, Mudras, Cards, Fairy).

But like even tanks for example:
-Edge of Shadow/Flood of Shadow=Burst Strike/Fated Circle=Holy Spirit/Holy Circle=Fell Cleave/Decimate
-Delirium=Requiescat=Bloodfest=Inner Release

[Ardox]

It used to be jobs were 70-80% unique, with 20-30% overlap in things like
-Gap Closer (Spineshatter Dive, Shoulder Tackle)
-Self mititgation (Second Wind, Perfect Dodge, Keen Flurry)
-Single GCD DoT (Phlebotemize, Touch of Death, Mutilate)

But now jobs are 70-80% homogenous, with 20-30% being their flavor (Jumps, Chakra, Mudras, Cards, Fairy).

But like even tanks for example:
-Edge of Shadow/Flood of Shadow=Burst Strike/Fated Circle=Holy Spirit/Holy Circle=Fell Cleave/Decimate
-Delirium=Requiescat=Bloodfest=Inner Release

Yes, it's easy to draw parallel for each jobs because all job needs to be able to clear all the content. You can't have a Healer without ST and AoE spells, Tanks need cooldowns to mitigate incoming damage, etc.

As for your example, you argue they are the same, but it's only superficially true: they are not the same move..
• Holy Spirit is 350/Ranged/2000MP + cast time 1.5sec
• Fell Cleave is 590/Melee/50BG
• Edge of Shadow is 500/Melee/3000MP + 30sec to Darkside
• Burst Strike is 500/Melee/1C


• Holy Circle is 250/Melee/Circle(5y)/2000MP + cast time 1.5sec
• Decimate is 250/Melee/Circle(5y)/50BG
• Flood of Shadow is 300/Range(10y?)/Line(10y)/3000MP + 30sec to Darkside
• Burst Strike is 320/Melee/Circle(5y)/1C

Look at those number: Fell Cleave towers over the other ST but Decimate is really low, Meaning a WAR wouldn't use his AoE in the exact same situation as the other 3 tanks. DRK moves sustains a Buff while the others do not. PLD have spells. WAR is the only one burning his gauge on his attacks... See? What you claim to be identical are not..

[Edax]

I'm starting to wonder if they're running out of FF jobs to draw from. Maybe they could further refine the soul crystals so you can split Samurai into a specialization like Sekiseigumi (whom might use firearms with their katana) or spec into a Blademaster that has more katana emotes? I'm just wildly speculating here but it does seem like we're running out of base weapon types.

[Crushnight]

I'm starting to wonder if they're running out of FF jobs to draw from. Maybe they could further refine the soul crystals so you can split Samurai into a specialization like Sekiseigumi (whom might use firearms with their katana) or spec into a Blademaster that has more katana emotes? I'm just wildly speculating here but it does seem like we're running out of base weapon types.

Oh we are far from running out of FF jobs
-Beastmaster/Puppeteer
-Mimic
-Freelancer
-Time mage
-Merchant
-Mystic Knight

To name a few just whether they want to use existing jobs or make new ones

[Edax]

Oh we are far from running out of FF jobs
-Beastmaster/Puppeteer
-Mimic
-Freelancer
-Time mage
-Merchant
-Mystic Knight

To name a few just whether they want to use existing jobs or make new ones

I suppose I should clarify and mean viable MMORPG jobs. We learned with Blue Mage that not all jobs translate properly. There's not that much difference between say the job of Fusilier with the job of Flintlock so they might not be viable to put into FFXIV because their weapons are already nearly identical to that of Machinist.

[Evogolist]

I suppose I should clarify and mean viable MMORPG jobs. We learned with Blue Mage that not all jobs translate properly. There's not that much difference between say the job of Fusilier with the job of Flintlock so they might not be viable to put into FFXIV because their weapons are already nearly identical to that of Machinist.

Not to turn this into another BLU thread, but to be honest, it's not that BLU didn't translate properly, it's that they royally screwed it up. There are about 5-6 threads that go into detail on how they could have properly done BLU. The foundation is there, they just need to figure out how to properly balance it out. Heck, look how long it took them to figure out SMN. SMN is finally on the right path. Jobs like BST and PUP could work like the Chocobo companion system. And no one buys the excuse of "X job is too hard to balance", because if you look at the classes/jobs that have existed since 1.xx and 2.XX they're a shadow of their former selves and have changed significantly.

Final Fantasy has a stable of classes/jobs that they can pick from, the only question is how much do they care about said class/job.

[Blueyes]

Not to turn this into another BLU thread, but to be honest, it's not that BLU didn't translate properly, it's that they royally screwed it up.

Correct. There is nothing stopping Blue Mage from functioning within the framework of FFXIV, aside from the stubbornness of the development team.

Mime is the only job that led me to initially doubt that it could work within FFXIV. However, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that there was an interpretation that could work. Think about certain fighting games that feature a character with access to moves from a variety of other characters. Mime could work the same way, with access to moves like Dragonfire Dive and Deathflare that can be used at will. Rather than directly copying the actions of teammates, Mime could function like a sample platter with at least one action from every other job that exists.