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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    It's not even always an issue of one or two people being behind. I've had runs where the guy leading the pack pulls the instant it's physically possible to do so, while almost no one is in the room yet. Makes it tough for everybody to get to the right group before the door closes.

    And fun fact - if there aren't enough people in any one alliance to stand on the pad for the Atomos, the entire raid will wipe. As in, hard enrage style insta-wipe. Yes, I have seen this happen. It pays to wait.

    Edit to add - it's also very annoying when someone instapulls the boss immediately following the Atomos. If Alliance A, say, has to be on the pad til the last minute because another alliance took a while to kill theirs, then there's a good chance an instapull is going to mean half of alliance A isn't gonna be close enough to get the buff they need to fight the boss. Which really just makes the fight take longer for everyone.
    Yeah thats great and all, but none of you have actually answered the question. In my experience its not whole alliances its like 4-5 random people. What the heck are you doing that 19 other people somehow managed to make it to their areas and you couldnt?

    Pop sprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Yeah thats great and all, but none of you have actually answered the question. In my experience its not whole alliances its like 4-5 random people. What the heck are you doing that 19 other people somehow managed to make it to their areas and you couldnt?

    Pop sprint.
    Load times vary from computer to computer, and from connection to connection. Wait or wipe, the choice is yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Yeah thats great and all, but none of you have actually answered the question. In my experience its not whole alliances its like 4-5 random people. What the heck are you doing that 19 other people somehow managed to make it to their areas and you couldnt?

    Pop sprint.
    I kinda did answer your question though? In my experience, I've had plenty of runs where a guy yolo pulls the instant he's close enough, and most of the alliances aren't in the room. I've literally had groups wipe because so few people were in the room that the fight insta ended itself. Point is that, in more than one of my runs of that raid, most of the group wasn't in the room when the guy got pulled - and A tends to end up with at least 3-4 extra people in it just about every time I run it.

    I'm not just talking about myself here, lmao.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Load times vary from computer to computer, and from connection to connection. Wait or wipe, the choice is yours.
    ^Also this. Some people load slower, some people were further away from the exit when the last fight ended. It happens. Often enough to be noticeable.

    Charging at the boss (or Atomos) when half the group isn't in the room helps absolutely no one. Wait a few seconds. It isn't gonna kill anybody - but rushing just might.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 08-19-2019 at 06:35 AM.
    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post

    ^Also this. Some people load slower, some people were further away from the exit when the last fight ended. It happens. Often enough to be noticeable.
    Agreed, I don't know if this is some new method people decided but recently the group will move the dragon to the very north which usually results in ranged (thus those with Peloton) being near the center and exiting the moment the fight ends. Sprint won't get you from entrance to the 2nd area and the melee/tanks are forced to hoof it with no boost. The first time its funny to see like 16 people on side A but after multiple times, just relax and wait an extra 20 seconds other wise we waste more time than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    I kinda did answer your question though? In my experience, I've had plenty of runs where a guy yolo pulls the instant he's close enough, and most of the alliances aren't in the room. I've literally had groups wipe because so few people were in the room that the fight insta ended itself. Point is that, in more than one of my runs of that raid, most of the group wasn't in the room when the guy got pulled - and A tends to end up with at least 3-4 extra people in it just about every time I run it.

    I'm not just talking about myself here, lmao.


    ^Also this. Some people load slower, some people were further away from the exit when the last fight ended. It happens. Often enough to be noticeable.

    Charging at the boss (or Atomos) when half the group isn't in the room helps absolutely no one. Wait a few seconds. It isn't gonna kill anybody - but rushing just might.
    If you're so slow loading that somehow youre 45 secomds behind everyone else, then something needs to be changed. And while i dont doubt theres some jerk somehow miles ahead of everyone else (likely to releasing on bone dragon early) every now and then, if most people can make it to B and C, those handful of people who got sucked into A are the outliers, not everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    If you're so slow loading that somehow youre 45 secomds behind everyone else, then something needs to be changed. And while i dont doubt theres some jerk somehow miles ahead of everyone else (likely to releasing on bone dragon early) every now and then, if most people can make it to B and C, those handful of people who got sucked into A are the outliers, not everyone else.
    Damn is it so bad to wait 10 to 15 seconds? Is it THAT bad? Why does everyone want to be super sonic so BAD? You'd think his games would be the best EVER with the way people rush everything in this game D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Yeah thats great and all, but none of you have actually answered the question. In my experience its not whole alliances its like 4-5 random people. What the heck are you doing that 19 other people somehow managed to make it to their areas and you couldnt?

    Pop sprint.
    Imagine everyone not having the best PC, something suddenly happening for a second, internet lag or anything at all in the world.
    You act like 10 seconds would really kill you, and it probably will for all you know.
    Like Jesus Lord Christ lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Imagine everyone not having the best PC, something suddenly happening for a second, internet lag or anything at all in the world.
    You act like 10 seconds would really kill you, and it probably will for all you know.
    Like Jesus Lord Christ lol.
    lmao i dont pull until at least my party is all past the line. so acting like ive personally offended you by saying that people need to stop faffing about during alliance raids is really funny.

    You act like hurrying up and/ or stop moaning in alliance chat would really kill you. Lord Jesus Christ lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    lmao i dont pull until at least my party is all past the line. so acting like ive personally offended you by saying that people need to stop faffing about during alliance raids is really funny.

    You act like hurrying up and/ or stop moaning in alliance chat would really kill you. Lord Jesus Christ lol.
    Stop being such a drama queen/king and diva. You are not more important than the rest of your group.
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    I have quite a few things that annoy me—but what’s really getting on my nerves right now is tanks that don’t want to man up and tank things... but the minute you pull the boss they start a Provoke war with you. Man up and pull. Don’t Provoke off of the other tanks that had more guts than you to pull the boss...
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