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    Here is a quote from previous tokyo fan fest interview.

    Q: Both of the races have characteristic head designs. What will happen to headgear?

    Yoshida: It won’t be displayed. It’s impossible with the current FFXIV’s system because of Viera’s and Hrothgar’s faces. The logic is that it was impossible to make helmets that would fit. For example, if we talk about Viera’s ears, you can make them fall sideways in which case we have to make the be in the same position as Miqo’te’s, otherwise it wouldn’t resonate with the system. So, we thought that if we don’t make new races that have new looks, that it doesn’t make any sense to add any, so I decided that it doesn’t matter if they can’t wear helmets. Therefore, no matter what helmet you equip, you can equip it, but it won’t graphically show. However, we did decide to enable display of head pieces that hide the entire head, so if you want to wear the Fat Chocobo Head, you can. Glasses and Circlets won’t be displayed. If we were to separately decide which item is fine and which isn’t, we would have to go through a huge number of items, so we decided to disable the graphics completely and only allow the headpieces that hide the entire head.
    So we might not even get hats/helmets at all because LUL system limitation.

    Source: https://gamerescape.com/2019/03/29/f...-of-the-press/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    Here is a quote from previous tokyo fan fest interview.



    So we might not even get hats/helmets at all because LUL system limitation.

    Source: https://gamerescape.com/2019/03/29/f...-of-the-press/
    I just don't think this is plausiable. Give as helmets and let my bunny ears just bleed through dammit. Hrothgar is more difficult understandably, but Viera have normal faces and only ears on the top of their head. I don't see the issue of the ears bleeding through.
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    The most disappointing thing about Hrothgar is definitely the fact that you have to buy a Fantasia every time you want to change the hair. As someone who sometimes gets an urge to change it I wouldn't be able to play something that makes me pay real money for such a change.

    And another thing on top of this is that Hrothgars don't get even a few hairstyles from the onces other races have. Maybe not all of them but I'm sure it'd be possible to put at least some of them on Hroth faces... that is if they made them separate :/
    Bunnies also have the lack of hairstyles problem and it feels like they at least get more choices but honestly half of Vieras' hairstyles are just the other half with some bangs slapped onto them.

    Not to mention the fact that people farmed/spent gil/real money on some hairstyles and now can't even use them so they sit there like a big waste of time or money. I don't have much hope for the big cats but I'll still pray for both them and the bunnies getting access to older hairstyles in the future.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tone19 View Post
    I just don't think this is plausiable. Give as helmets and let my bunny ears just bleed through dammit. Hrothgar is more difficult understandably, but Viera have normal faces and only ears on the top of their head. I don't see the issue of the ears bleeding through.
    I wholeheartedly agree. I couldn't care less for clipping, if it's bad I'll just hide or glamour the headpiece and if it looks fine I'll just deal with the fact that there are no actual holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    Here is a quote from previous tokyo fan fest interview.



    So we might not even get hats/helmets at all because LUL system limitation.

    Source: https://gamerescape.com/2019/03/29/f...-of-the-press/
    Given how we were able to get some 500+ pieces of headgear available for the new races at launch thanks to some kind devs working behind Yoshi P and on their own time leads me to believe that this aforementioned system is automated to a degree so they might have had to do things manually or some extensive reworking of the system to give us the headgear we have now. Then again I'm not a programmer for this game so I obviously don't know. I've also seen it stated that they would make certain pieces compatible based on player demand/request. Maybe this was awkwardly translated. Either way this statement is kind of inconsistent with what we have and it's clear that it is indeed possible.

    As for my opinion on Hrothgar I like many other people condemn the fact that hair is tied to face and that it can't be changed without a fantasia. I'm hoping that it was at least some form of technical oversight because expecting players to commit to one hairstyle (and not even allowing them to change between hair that shares the same face at the very least) and intentionally locking it behind a paywall - especially if they plan on releasing new hairstyles/faces later down the line - is a really scummy move.
    This is probably going to sound terribly petty but with the relatively limited options Hrothgar have in terms of customization I feel that "same-face" is far more prevalent with them. Even though the other races excepting Hyur have just four faces to choose from as well it really exemplifies how much the hairstyle options can offset this issue, and when each Hrothgar face only has two to choose from... it just makes it all the more difficult to make a character that really stands out from the rest.
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