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    It's definitely a limitation due to the system.
    They only have so many variables that can be changed, and so many that can be changed via aesthetician.

    For Hrothgar, the variable that can be changed via aesthetician is the fur pattern and fur colour, with the 'Hairstyles' instead taking up the same variable slot as Au Ra horns, by being tied to the face.

    Unless they change the way the aesthetician works, all Hrothgar will get is more fur patterns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It's definitely a limitation due to the system.
    They only have so many variables that can be changed, and so many that can be changed via aesthetician.

    For Hrothgar, the variable that can be changed via aesthetician is the fur pattern and fur colour, with the 'Hairstyles' instead taking up the same variable slot as Au Ra horns, by being tied to the face.

    Unless they change the way the aesthetician works, all Hrothgar will get is more fur patterns.
    Well, unless there's a boatload of fur pattern to make up for the number of hairstyle we won't get, that was a very very poor decision
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It's definitely a limitation due to the system.
    They only have so many variables that can be changed, and so many that can be changed via aesthetician.

    For Hrothgar, the variable that can be changed via aesthetician is the fur pattern and fur colour, with the 'Hairstyles' instead taking up the same variable slot as Au Ra horns, by being tied to the face.

    Unless they change the way the aesthetician works, all Hrothgar will get is more fur patterns.
    And it was their great idea to put the fur pattern int he category of the hairstyles instead of putting manes in that one. I am not sure who decided that this would be great? Fur pattern is nice and all but most probably wont even see that if they dont run around nearly naked all the time..while (especially with the helmets missing) most will probably see their head.
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    The combination of hair style issue and head gear issue makes the Hrothgar customization severely lacking. One of those would be bad, both of them are dreadful.

    The fur patterns are cool, but imo the Hrothgar need serious rework. The heads should be shaved to allow hairstyles and the patterns combined with the hairstyle options to keep the number of variables same. That's likely the most reasonable fix to Aesthetician.

    If we go this route I'd like to see some beards combined with the new hairstyles.

    So far the race seems more like the early preview. I like it, started playing the game again due to it, but it's definitely not polished and these issues are serious bummer.
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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    This "Hairstyle bound to face" reminds me of another game which basically means that the race is either made by lazy hands or unfinished.
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    Face: No facial expressions seem to show (try the emotes). Still, I rarely see the front, except in cutscenes.
    Stance. Hunched, wide spaced bent legs, seems ready to pounce at all times. Looks tiring, not relaxed when just standing around.
    I'm just using the default racial gear, so the shoulder fur pattern shows. I only have two other glamours left over from my fem M'iqote, but they're both full coverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    Face: No facial expressions seem to show (try the emotes). Still, I rarely see the front, except in cutscenes.
    All of the expressions in the emote list show up just fine on Hrothgar. I was actually quite pleased with how expressive my character was during the MSQ. A lot of game devs don't put much work into the expressiveness of animalistic races beyond being able to snarl. Hrothgar, on the other hand, have very expressive faces.
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    For the Hrothgar's use of the aesthetician, I can only hope this gets addressed in the upcoming PLL. I love Hrothgar a lot, even with it's helmet limitations but if you tell me that I can't use the aesthetician to change fur patterns or have no plans to make that possible...then sadly I might have to rethink my usage of Hrothgars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    The only reason I haven’t switched back is because it costs money and I have a little hope that additional hairs and helmets will be added. I would have never switched had I known how limited the clothing options and jandellain changeable things were
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    Beskar Silverfrost
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    I'm.. Content. That's the word I think I'd use. There are issues which do need to get addressed.
    Hairstyles and faces. This is the big one. I would at the very least like to be able to switch to the other hairstyle my face can use. I also hope that they keep to their word of adding new faces and hairstyles as time goes on.
    Headgear. I'm fine with what we have currently. I don't use all that much headgear so it doesn't bother me as much but I can understand where it's coming from.

    There's also odd animation issues I keep seeing which I report. The Manderville Mambo is guilty of this where the head clips through the raised shoulders by a considerable amount as well as some odd dancer animation abilities where the arms go thinner than normal and twist.

    Other than that I'm generally happy with them.
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