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    Hrothgar Review

    It's been around a month and overall I must say I'm more dissapointed then pleased with the race and below is why.

    Hardly any headgear can be worn, though I appreciate the devs work to make some headgear wearable before shb came out.

    Can't make full on tiger cause they didn't give a bald head or at least super short hair option for one of the faces.

    I'm still a hrothgar but I don't know for how long, I'm hoping by 5.3 they add some new faces/hairstyles, I'm try to hold out but don't know if I can.

    Hopefully the bunny girls are in a better situation then us because I was all pumped up for hrothgar when they got announced, even after hearing limitations they'd have, but getting in game and getting to try them out I must say I am eating my words when I said release em anyways they look so cool.

    In closing they look cool, unless you were hoping for a tiger cause they just end looking like a lion with tiger make up on, and I'm really hoping more hairstyles/faces get added cause with some more options this race can be super bad ass but currently thier let limitations feel as bad as blue mage to me.
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    Disappointed that hairstyles are linked to faces - therefore the hairdresser in the inn is almost pointless. Could have been really great and was going to move my alt to it, but after playing around in character creation I'm not going to.

    Viera is a lot better, though I think both Hrothgar and Viera need more helmet support and more hairstyles. Yes, they need to re-work Hrothgar.
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    They should've never released them in the state that they were in period. There's too many issues with them to be something you would release as a finished product.

    This is the kinda stuff that Blizzard pulls and the fact that SE is doing now is terrifying. This let's release unfinished stuff and promise that it will be fixed later bullcrap is the reason people abandoned Wow.

    Pro tip for next time SE. Fix your stuff and make it 100% before you release it to paying customers. You piss off less of them that way.
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    Pretty dumb that hairstyles are bound to faces and that they can wear literally no headgear , only certain are visibe.
    Also that they hunch like the notre dame bro but the poses under emotes show they can stand uUPRIGHT -_-
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    Last edited by foussi; 08-06-2019 at 10:16 PM. Reason: Wrote something incorrectly

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    i'm assuming every helm going forward will fit them. Considering how much the devs love to re-use gear you will eventually be able to wear every headgear the game has available so on that aspect people need to be patient.

    Regarding the hairstyles being bound to the face yeah... that sucks.
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    Having both races as limited as they are is one thing, but I think the egregious thing is not allowing hrothgar to change anything without a fantasia. I don't know if this is some limitation or something, but it's ridiculous as it is now. You guys get like one face, and an option of braids or whatever, then you have to pay for fantasia if you want to ever change it. Seems a bit much, in my opinion.

    Not only should they add more to the race (and viera), I think they need to fix this somehow.
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    Here is a quote from previous tokyo fan fest interview.

    Q: Both of the races have characteristic head designs. What will happen to headgear?

    Yoshida: It won’t be displayed. It’s impossible with the current FFXIV’s system because of Viera’s and Hrothgar’s faces. The logic is that it was impossible to make helmets that would fit. For example, if we talk about Viera’s ears, you can make them fall sideways in which case we have to make the be in the same position as Miqo’te’s, otherwise it wouldn’t resonate with the system. So, we thought that if we don’t make new races that have new looks, that it doesn’t make any sense to add any, so I decided that it doesn’t matter if they can’t wear helmets. Therefore, no matter what helmet you equip, you can equip it, but it won’t graphically show. However, we did decide to enable display of head pieces that hide the entire head, so if you want to wear the Fat Chocobo Head, you can. Glasses and Circlets won’t be displayed. If we were to separately decide which item is fine and which isn’t, we would have to go through a huge number of items, so we decided to disable the graphics completely and only allow the headpieces that hide the entire head.
    So we might not even get hats/helmets at all because LUL system limitation.

    Source: https://gamerescape.com/2019/03/29/f...-of-the-press/
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    Last edited by Dalmacus; 08-06-2019 at 10:18 PM.

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    After the limited job Blue Mage and the limited races Viera and Hrothgar, I am really scared about the next set of dungeons...

    on the most serious side, I will never play Hrothgar but I have seen some amazing ones and my lala feels at home near them. Still waiting for them to become a Lala-mount.
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    Honestly can see this. SWTOR has the same issue with some races, like Twileks. The headpiece will not show up at all because of the doodaads sprouting from their heads. So even a robe would force the hood to vanish. It's not limited to this game. At least the headpieces such as glasses, and I imagine circlets etc - can be used. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all that could be done. I imagine that armour that is 'Viera' or 'Hrothgar' inspired will not be proper headwear; which we've pretty much seen already.

    So, I'm used to this already. The biggest issue I see is that Hrothgar has to pay for a fantasia to change their hairstyle, which honestly - I can't see this changing. Even if it's within reason. I wish it would. As for all legacy hair, perhaps... I guess the argument could be that Viera has iconic hair and you won't really see them with different types, but that seems like a bogus argument.

    The fact they're limited to this and then also genderlocked isn't good.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 08-06-2019 at 10:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    Here is a quote from previous tokyo fan fest interview.



    So we might not even get hats/helmets at all because LUL system limitation.

    Source: https://gamerescape.com/2019/03/29/f...-of-the-press/
    I tthink this is old news. Obviously glasses and circlets are being displayed, etc. Hrothgar also have access to a few full face actual helmets, I think they can wear the dwarf stuff, for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Honestly can see this. SWTOR has the same issue with some races, like Twileks. The headpiece will not show up at all because of the doodaads sprouting from their heads. So even a robe would force the hood to vanish. It's not limited to this game. At least the headpieces such as glasses, and I imagine circlets etc - can be used. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all that could be done. I imagine that armour that is 'Viera' or 'Hrothgar' inspired will not be proper headwear; which we've pretty much seen already.

    So, I'm used to this already. The biggest issue I see is that Hrothgar has to pay for a fantasia to change their hairstyle, which honestly - I can't see this changing. Even if it's within reason. I wish it would. As for all legacy hair, perhaps... I guess the argument could be that Viera has iconic hair and you won't really see them with different types, but that seems like a bogus argument.

    The fact they're limited to this and then also genderlocked isn't good.
    Yeah, my sorc (pretty much my main imp) was a twilek though I race changed a lot, that's what it always wen't back to. She couldn't wear hoods, but it's been a really long time. When they added the new race togruta I race changed something, and made a couple alts, and I don't think they could wear any headgear either. I kind of stopped playing shortly after togruta came out, pretty much stopped when the PvP servers died, and I didn't play when they finally did decide to merge them into the PvE. Hate PvE carebear servers for one, but I'm getting off-topic..

    Definitely not limited to this game. There is a logical reason for something like togruta, something like Hrothgar could have more headgear, it's just they don't want to spend the time to do so. I think both Hrothgar and Viera could have at least hats. Helmets too, but they would have to be heavily edited. Viera need the hair most definitely, the ones we paid for most. Hrothgar should have more just in general - and they said they were working on both already. I just hope it is a decent amount.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-06-2019 at 10:50 PM.
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