RDM Chainspell Idea

[Burningskull]

So Chainspell was an ability in FFXI for RDM. It was their 2h I believe that allowed them to insta cast spells back to back for a few seconds. Dualcast kinda does this. I think they could add Chainspell as a sorta upgrade to Dualcast by having it work on the procs you get. For example:

You Hardcast Jolt 2 > Dualcast Verthunder and get a Verfire proc. Since you got the Verfire proc Chainspell triggers making your next cast of Verfire instant but still allows you to Dualcast Veraero next. So as long as you get procs Chainspell allows your spells to stay instant.

Think it would work?

[TankHunter678]

It would make the class more mobile but little else.

[Ardox]

You would still need to wait for the GCD to refresh, it wouldn't be a huge improvement except if we get a unmanageable amount of oGCD skill to weave. If you want it a improvement over dualcast, you need to throw something else with it, like the ability to cast Verfire oGCD-like

[Zyneste]

Changing how Acceleration works would be a better thing to do, if you're looking for more mobility flexibility, damage and a similar effect to chainspell.

Something like: For the next 4 seconds, cast times are reduced by 3 seconds. Each Verthunder/VerAeros casts 100% proc VerThunder/Verstone respectively.

This creates:
1) A sort of RDM Version of Triple cast (but only 2 spells instead of one and only to be used on Verstone/VerFire/Jolt for movement in this sense.)
2) Allows you to hardcast your Verthunder/VerAero as the fodder for your dualcast instead of a jolt.
3) Increases the possible procs created from 1 to 2.
4) It just overall fits the name, much much better.

Said it before, but I think this is where we should go with it. Right now Acceleration is about a ~24 potency gain, when you factor in that 50% of the time the spell was gonna trigger its proc anyways. [Damage difference is 270(Stone)-250(Jolt II) + 3 mana = 20 + 3 mana. 20 + 3(9) = 47x .5 = 23.5.] Its real gain comes from being an opener stabilizer to fit your melee combo into your embolden correctly, while fitting 2 fleches under the same pot, but is still a very weak skill, either way.

[Jonnycbad]

Chainspell is what "Dualcast" is called in JP. You can name it something else maybe. Like Spell Flurry or Quadra Magic, idk.

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[Archwizard]

Alternately, just give us some instant spell procs.

Slide-cast, Dualcast, instant proc, Swiftcast, and we've already chained plenty of spells without Reprise.

Changing how Acceleration works would be a better thing to do, if you're looking for more mobility flexibility, damage and a similar effect to chainspell.

Something like: For the next 4 seconds, cast times are reduced by 3 seconds. Each Verthunder/VerAeros casts 100% proc Verfire/Verstone respectively

While I love the idea of giving us our own Lightspeed kind of skill to swap our V-longs with our V-shorts, isn't 4 seconds a little short? And combining with Acceleration a little counterintuitive? I mean you would only want to use it on Verthunder and Veraero, which is fine, but you would only get one V-long cast out of it if you started casting immediately. You wouldn't get any value of shortening any other spells.

[IchiExorz]

I like the idea of having a Lightspeed kinda ability.

But it would pretty much just make us a bit more mobile.
What if in addition to that it reduces our recast time to 1.5 seconds.

An ability like this: Chainspell
All spells proc dualcast (only spells, not weaponskills or abilities.) & spell recast time reduced to 1.5 seconds for 10 seconds. (90 second cooldown?)
Or
For 10 seconds spells have their cast timer reduced by 5 seconds & recast timer becomes 1.5 seconds.

[Archwizard]

I like the idea of having a Lightspeed kinda ability.

But it would pretty much just make us a bit more mobile.

Not true, actually. While it would reduce Jolt and the V2s (and by extension, VStone/VFire) to instant cast, it would also reduce the cast times of VThunder, VAero and Impact to below our GCD, allowing us to hardcast them in place of using Jolt/VStone/VFire/V2 in order to proc dualcast. Each cast of the VLongs would be 40-60 potency over the VShorts, and each Impact would be 100 potency/target over the V2s, making a substantial gain in both single-target and AoE.

Also worth mentioning that reducing the recast time in this case is a bad idea. While the instant effect would counteract the loss of the above (since the VLong spells would otherwise, once again, be longer than the GCD to hardcast), it would be a whopping 40% PPS gain for all GCD skills cast during the window, which is greater than any damage boost in the game before you factor in the gain in VLong damage itself.
Plus it would reduce our window for casting oGCDs.

Chainspell is what "Dualcast" is called in JP. You can name it something else maybe. Like Spell Flurry or Quadra Magic, idk.

Or perhaps even something like (Ver)Haste. Bit more classical.

I mean, if ASTs aren't gonna use it, we can at least argue it's some kind of Triplecast descendant...