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    It’s because they don’t want to keep making new animations for the same mandatory skill every time they release a new job. Instead of coming up with a new “Esuna” for the new healer they just get the role action esuna and the devs can focus on making unique skills for the job.

    Every healer needs esuna, every tank needs rampart, every tank needs provoke. No point wasting animations and skill names on a skill that already exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    It’s because they don’t want to keep making new animations for the same mandatory skill every time they release a new job. Instead of coming up with a new “Esuna” for the new healer they just get the role action esuna and the devs can focus on making unique skills for the job.

    Every healer needs esuna, every tank needs rampart, every tank needs provoke. No point wasting animations and skill names on a skill that already exists.
    Except the skill names and animations already exist. It’s a waste to not use them.

    And I think if people can understand that ‘Rez’ means Raise, Resurrection or Ascend, they can probably get their head around ‘Cleanse’ meaning Esuna, Leeches or Exalt.

    There will only ever be ONE more healer in the game’s lifetime, I can assure you that. It won’t be difficult to come up with one more version of Esuna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Except the skill names and animations already exist. It’s a waste to not use them.
    It's also a weak argument when you consider 3 out of the 4 tanks have a carbon copy of the same 2 minute cooldowns (Sentinel/Shadow Wall/Nebula) and they all have unique icons/animations. Remove the reflect on Vengeance and it'll be 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Except the skill names and animations already exist. It’s a waste to not use them.

    And I think if people can understand that ‘Rez’ means Raise, Resurrection or Ascend, they can probably get their head around ‘Cleanse’ meaning Esuna, Leeches or Exalt.

    There will only ever be ONE more healer in the game’s lifetime, I can assure you that. It won’t be difficult to come up with one more version of Esuna.
    I’m not saying the moves shouldn’t be reused, but If the moves were to come back I’d want them to come back as something new and unique, not just as copy paste esuna.

    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    It's also a weak argument when you consider 3 out of the 4 tanks have a carbon copy of the same 2 minute cooldowns (Sentinel/Shadow Wall/Nebula) and they all have unique icons/animations. Remove the reflect on Vengeance and it'll be 4.
    Sentinel on tanks could absolutely be made a role action, so could raise on healers. Resurrection and veraise could stay as smn and rdm unique versions because not all casters can raise, but all healers will be able to.

    Then same as above vengeance, nebula, shadow wall/skin, bulwark, these moves could all come back as unique skills with their own effects. Then the homogenised base that all tanks and healers share could have a unique flavour built on top of it.
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    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    I’m not saying the moves shouldn’t be reused, but If the moves were to come back I’d want them to come back as something new and unique, not just as copy paste esuna.
    Well Leeches was different, it interacted with Aetherflow from what I recall.
    Same could be done of the others.
    Exalted could restore MP.
    Esuna could speed up Lily generation by 5s or something.
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