Be careful with future advertisments

[Crushnight]

9 new dungeons was repeatedly said throughout Shadowbringers interviews.

What we got was 8 dungeons + 1 map 'dungeon' so technically no lie or false information.

So why is this an issue? Because as a playerbase we view these very differently and even the game classes them differently.

The playerbase know dungeons as 4 man content with 1 tank, 1 healer, 2 dps that can be queued through the duty finder the only exceptions have been CM and Praetorium.

Map 'dungeons' are separate to this due to them requiring an outside item, have rng if you can even enter and can be entered from 1-8 players.

They function very differently and are treated as such by the community, you even added a separate section in party finder for this, now this could just be the difference with how you as devs view things and how we view things but this is iffy information to give out, and i hope that you could be more clearer with what you are adding in the future.

[Demetri_Delethorn]

[Haruka_R]

We got da damn dungeons didn't we?

[Iscah]

And how many people would have said "eight dungeons? There's no way I'm buying this unless it has at least nine!"...?

[Kurando]

The playerbase is notorious for making assumptions though and then are disappointed when something they thought was going to happen actually doesn't, or at least not in the way they expected.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So they didn't lie about 9 dungeons, but the issue is because 1 map is a Treasure Map Dungeon?
I think anybody upset wasn't paying attention.

[Gwenorai]

I thought it was pretty obvious that a new map 'dungeon' would count as one. Like, why wouldn't it? It's still a dungeon.

[Crushnight]

Actually this is the 1st time SE themselves classed it as a dungeon, Aquapolis was not advertised as the 3rd dungeon in its patch nor was Hidden Canals advertised as the 9th dungeon for Stormblood, so yes i did assume that when they say 9 dungeons i think of the queuable df instances rather than maps so forgive me for that assumption because it is based on prior patterns whoopsie me.

Where on Earth did i say anything about people being hyperbolic to cancel subs or not play over a 4 man dungeon not being added over the map dungeon? O_o

SE for Shadowbringers have been bad with information that either suggest things that are different to how the community sees it based on prior patterns, the Viera reveal is another notable one.

When you hear dungeons does your mind go to stuff like Satasha, Mt Gulg etc or do you go to Hidden Canals/Lythe? So when they said 9 new dungeons oops silly me thinking we would have 9 of the former not 8 and 1 of the latter.

[PeppermintBrown]

This isn't the end of the world or anything but it is eyebrow raising that they would lump a map 'dungeon' in with the main eight dungeons. Other than being instanced content they have little in common with the main dungeons. It'd be like lumping in the trials and raids to say '16 new dungeons!' It's an entirely separate type of content with different rewards and purpose.

[Nora_of_Mira]

is this a real post