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    Did Water and Ice swap colours in Shadowbringers?

    A.K.A. which Crystal of Light is which? This is nitpicky as all hell, I know, but in both the Exarch's Calamities.pps and the post-Eden 3 cutscene, the 'Water' aether looks cyan to me (and 'Ice' aether in the hologram is "traditional FF blue"). Yet for some reason I was under the impression they were the other way around in other contexts.

    So yeah, am I imagining things/ got the colours wrong? And which element was the blue one we pick up at level 5, and which was the cyan one in Stone Vigil?

    EDIT: I checked the character creation deity screen and that has cyan Halone/Menphina and blue Thaliak/Nymeia, at least to me. Halone is icy right?
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    You have your colors mixed up.
    Water has always been dark blue, while Ice has always been light blue/cyan.

    The only exceptions to those color "rules" are AST's cards, which are different.

    And yeah, our very first "Crystal of Light" was Water-aspected, while the one we found over Stone Vigil was Ice-aspected (which made sense, given the place we found it).

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    Halone is icy right?
    Halone, the Fury is associated with the aspect of Ice, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    You have your colors mixed up.
    Water has always been dark blue, while Ice has always been light blue/cyan.
    The only exceptions to those color "rules" are AST's cards, which are different.
    And yeah, our very first "Crystal of Light" was Water-aspected, while the one we found over Stone Vigil was Ice-aspected (which made sense, given the place we found it).
    Halone, the Fury is associated with the aspect of Ice, yes.
    See, that's how I thought things were supposed to be, so thanks for confirming that. But that just reinforces my confusion at the two cutscenes I mentioned from Shadowbringers.

    Here's the Age of Endless Frost Calamity (it blends into the floor a bit), with an Earth-aspected Source:


    Here's the Great Flood Calamity, which came after, with an Ice-aspected Source:


    And here's Eden's Crystal of Water:


    In these pictures, to me Ice looks Blue and Water looks Cyan, when as you say it should be the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoptomon View Post
    Snip.
    I guess they were a bit "liberal" when it came to their shades of blue.
    Regardless, the darker one should be Water, while the lighter one should be Ice.

    For the Exarch's explanation on the Calamities/Rejoinings, the Ice-based Calamity had a lighter shade of blue (almost white, even) when compared to the Water-based one.

    As for that giant crystal in the Empty, I'd say we wait until we actually restore its Ice aspect (with Shiva being the most likely candidate to do so) before we jump to conclusions.
    It may be an even lighter shade of blue, which would mean that it'd be Ice-aspected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoptomon View Post
    See, that's how I thought things were supposed to be, so thanks for confirming that. But that just reinforces my confusion at the two cutscenes I mentioned from Shadowbringers.

    Here's the Age of Endless Frost Calamity (it blends into the floor a bit), with an Earth-aspected Source:


    Here's the Great Flood Calamity, which came after, with an Ice-aspected Source:


    In these pictures, to me Ice looks Blue and Water looks Cyan, when as you say it should be the other way around.
    If you notice the Water calamity is a darker shade of blue, which makes it easier to see in the screenshots, while the ice is a lighter shade of blue, which makes it really hard to see in the screenshots as it basically merges into the background flooring. So the colors are correct in terms of shading.

    The eden water crystal is not a very good thing to use for comparison because we lack an ice crystal to compare it to.
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