It's time to remove job restrictions on glamour...

[Schan]

Archeage actually does this and it works just fine.

We really need to stop assuming just because X game does it it can be easily applied to FFXIV.

You do realize FFXIV uses a custom made engine right? so no. it can't be easily copy pasted into a completely different game engine.

Would actually make more people look different if you could glam items from different classes/races.

Cute that you are that naive. I used to play an online game where you could customize so much stuff. each piece gear had at least 3 dye channels. It was a sandbox game so there was a lot of horizontal gear progression (well honestly all heavy / light / cloth armour had the same stats until the devs decided to power creep something which was usually hellish to get). Same thing applied to weapons so basically you could wear whatever you wanted and guess what. EVERYONE STILL WORE THE SAME STUFF DYED WHITE OR BLACK. You need to understand something. Humans are mostly sheep.
You can see in the glamour department even though there is some choice the most popular are always the same basic sets.

[Eldevern]

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One the other hand, not everyone like to be original or excentric, not because of some kind of "follower" behavior but also because of tastes. Tastes are pretty personal, whatever people who want to think it is education thinks or tells. And... somehow people kinda lack of imagination. We can't blame them for that.

[Duskane]

Game sounds like it didn't have a huge player base

And its not like people don't look like sheep now one treasure map glam or mogstation glam to another

If anything it would cut that back and make things different

[Allooutrick]

I'm going to have to disagree with removing the restrictions. Sometimes more isn't a good idea. As far as creativity goes, restrictions can be beneficial. Also, in all my months playing, I've seen less than 5 players in frog / chocobo armor.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

We really need to stop assuming just because X game does it it can be easily applied to FFXIV.

You do realize FFXIV uses a custom made engine right? so no. it can't be easily copy pasted into a completely different game engine.





Cute that you are that naive. I used to play an online game where you could customize so much stuff. each piece gear had at least 3 dye channels. It was a sandbox game so there was a lot of horizontal gear progression (well honestly all heavy / light / cloth armour had the same stats until the devs decided to power creep something which was usually hellish to get). Same thing applied to weapons so basically you could wear whatever you wanted and guess what. EVERYONE STILL WORE THE SAME STUFF DYED WHITE OR BLACK. You need to understand something. Humans are mostly sheep.
You can see in the glamour department even though there is some choice the most popular are always the same basic sets.

I don't think that certain things being popular necessarily makes people "sheep". Just that certain styles are more aesthetically appealing than others. The issue I see is that SE doesn't look enough at the trends of what's popular and why and then designs new gear in a similar style. Here's a look at some of my glam plates:



Am I a "sheep" for liking these things? Am I supposed to not use the glams I find appealing just because they are popular and used by many others as well? Most of the pieces I use can be used by any class, and I use some of the "popular" pieces in black & white too. That doesn't make me a "sheep". It just means there's certain styles that have a broad aesthetic appeal. Insulting people by calling them "sheep" for what they like (whether its quirky/uncommon or trendy/popular) does you no credit.

Something many people will notice is that I primarily favor WHM in particular and casters in general and yet you'll find nary a robe among my glams with only the Uraeus Coat being anywhere close to one. Why? Because I'm not interested in wearing a dress and yet healers/casters have a veritable cornucopia of robes/dresses/longcoats foisted upon them, yet little to nothing that doesn't fall into those categories. To escape that I have to rely on "all classes" glam for an alternative. I work with the options available to me though that means my choices are relatively limited since none of my role gear fits the aesthetic I find appealing. Removing class restrictions on role based gear would open up my options tremendously.

[SendohJin]

They can easily make a glamour item that changes certain items into an “image” item. Or a level one item, that way they don’t have to turn the off switch for everything. It’ll just change certain items entirely.

Archeage actually does this and it works just fine.

that's exactly the kind of extra work that they don't need to be doing to satisfy a very small amount of players. we don't need yet another system built related to glamours.

[Bright-Flower]

Isn't that really something for the devs to decide, though? Not armchair forum warriors? And most of the arguments here have been for other reasons (e.g., immersion) anyway.

And honestly, only the devs know how much time it would take to do.

People asking for things don't know how long it would take, and it could be a bigger deal than they imagine.

People against it could also overestimate how much work it would take.

We can only really guess at it.

[Skivvy]

They can easily make a glamour item that changes certain items into an “image” item. Or a level one item, that way they don’t have to turn the off switch for everything. It’ll just change certain items entirely.

Archeage actually does this and it works just fine.

As much as I love Archeage, I've never cared for their glamour system. It's better now that you can actually retrieve an already-applied image from gear while not losing the gear itself, but it's still fairly meh. It's rather clunky compared to other systems that are out there.

While not perfect, I actually really like the system they have in XI. You can glamour any piece of gear onto whatever job you like. The only requirement is that you have to be able to equip the glam-item normally (e.g.: to use a level 50 ninja body as glamour, you have to already have your ninja at level 50). It's also incredibly quick and easy and doesn't require any prisms or anything else.

The downside of their system is that you still have to keep the physical item. It also uses a system more like the glamour plates as well. You basically create an outfit - then can apply it to whatever you like. You can save up to 100 outfits, so they're doing better than XIV in that regard, but I'd prefer the system to let you actually re-skin individual items. vs. using the plate system.

[Sated]

I'd be okay if they did something like lifted the DoW/DoM tags for the earlier ARR stuff and GC gear.
Also be fine if they merged Fending/Maiming, Scouting/Aiming, Caster/Healer together.

Would never be okay with removing job restrictions from something like AF though.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I'd be okay if they did something like lifted the DoW/DoM tags for the earlier ARR stuff and GC gear.
Also be fine if they merged Fending/Maiming, Scouting/Aiming, Caster/Healer together.

Would never be okay with removing job restrictions from something like AF though.

I think most people agree that job specific artifact armor should retain its exclusivity.