Quality of life suggestion for Dancer

[Kytrin]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up already, but I wanted to throw this idea out there if not...

I use a keyboard, but I regularly use cross hotbars to bounce between a single target rotation and my aoe one. However, when I unlocked dancer earlier I noticed that the ONLY abilities that convert to Emoite, Entrechat, Jete, and Pirouette when the steps are used are the single target ones.

This means that when I switch to my aoe rotation I have to also cram the single target abilities onto it in order to use the steps. This is... a bit clunky.

So since both single target and aoe have identical types of combo/proc skills I was wondering if we could set Windmill, Bladeshower, Rising Windmill, and Bloodshower to also change into Emoite, Entrechat, Jete, and Pirouette when the steps are used. I can't imagine that it would hurt anything, and it would make the whole thing flow a lot more easily.

[bass9020]

Id really like to see Saber Dance reworked. Right now the whole esprit gauge is pointless, make Saber Dance an ogcd ability on a timer. Having it on the gcd is rather annoying and messes with the flow of the job, its bad enough the fans can be clunky sometimes.

[TaiyouSeishin]

I would actually just like to set where the dance moves show up in general not tied to other abulities that they would change to

[Mhaeric]

I would actually just like to set where the dance moves show up in general not tied to other abulities that they would change to

You can already do this if you want them in specific spots that aren't your main actions by simply placing a second copy of the base skills where you want them, because it's possible to place multiple copies of the same action on your hotbars.

[Nakkir]

Here's what I'd also do:

1. Make it so you can generate a small amount of Esprit with GCD skills (like 1-2 Esprit). That way you can generate it faster without a dance partner.

2. Make Saber Dance an oGCD OR give it a 50% chance to generate a Flourishing Feather.

3. Make the Dances oGCDs.

That's basically it. I don't think potency changes will be needed as this'll allow the rotation to flow faster, with more weaving.

[Kytrin]

Here's what I'd also do:

1. Make it so you can generate a small amount of Esprit with GCD skills (like 1-2 Esprit). That way you can generate it faster without a dance partner.

2. Make Saber Dance an oGCD OR give it a 50% chance to generate a Flourishing Feather.

3. Make the Dances oGCDs.

That's basically it. I don't think potency changes will be needed as this'll allow the rotation to flow faster, with more weaving.

Those are interesting suggestions! I just started dancer so I haven't gotten very far with it and haven't unlocked Espirit. I just noticed the whole skill to steps thing and started scratching my head over it lol.

[Shurrikhan]

Here's what I'd also do:

1. Make it so you can generate a small amount of Esprit with GCD skills (like 1-2 Esprit). That way you can generate it faster without a dance partner.

2. Make Saber Dance an oGCD OR give it a 50% chance to generate a Flourishing Feather.

3. Make the Dances oGCDs.

That's basically it. I don't think potency changes will be needed as this'll allow the rotation to flow faster, with more weaving.

That would quickly bring Dancer up from bottom of the barrel in total contribution to a top-contender, since you'd be gaining more than a sixth of your uptime, and therefore non-Step/Finish-related DPS, back. As such it may be (far, far) too much to ask for at once.

Personally, I'd just like to see Steps not lock out any actions but weaponskills and the opening Step and Finish keep the same half-GCD as the steps between. That way we could pop Devilment just before hitting Finish, giving us far smoother and less wasteful openers and burst periods.

[Jukebox12]

I would rather have a 600 potency on a gcd then a 300 on a ogcd. Why do people thinking having it on a gcd is bad. It doesn't interrupt our combos so

[Connor]

I would rather have a 600 potency on a gcd then a 300 on a ogcd. Why do people thinking having it on a gcd is bad. It doesn't interrupt our combos so

Having it on the GCD also makes it easier to weave into Flourish phase because you don’t have to worry about clipping the gcd to use Sabre Dance with Fan Dance I/II and III If it was an oGCD you’d also have to choose between weaving either Sabre Dance or weaving Fan Dances, plus whatever other oGCD that need used. I can understand wanting Sabre Dance off the GCD for convenience, but I think long-term it would just cause issues elsewhere. Also, if Sabre Dance was an oGCD then wouldn’t it have to have a recast timer? Unless the recast timer scaled to your exact GCD you wouldn’t be able to use it twice in a row if you ever somehow to get to 100 Esprit, and if you could do that while weaving (assuming same potency), I think it could cause Dancer’s personal DPS to shoot up beyond what it should be as a support oriented job

I do agree with you about the potency too lol

That said, I think giving it a chance of granting Fourfold Feather make others warm up to it a bit more.

[Jkap_Goat]

Watch, dancer is going to loose all its support like when a new support job comes in because, there can only be one support.

Bard loss its support and buffs
AST loss its support and buffs

Why? Why do this to Bard!? Bard supports with it's songs and what is it now?