Cross world Market good or bad?

[IamBetterThanYou]

So, I have noticed something. Back in stormblood, when the new items, gears, minions released, they would be sold at high prices and would sell a LOT. But since shadowbringers, even after the new treasure map items which are in high demand, not even a single of those dresses sold in my server for the first 3 days. Yes, 3 days! And same goes with the new gears, only 2 people bought them on first day for black mage armour and none were sold until the price hit like 1.1mil which means people who made them during launch, had to sell in loss since the mats were still high priced.

So the point I am making is, it seems earning gil crafting has gone down significantly and it shifted more on crafting mats, aka, grinding dungeons for scrips or fates for gemstones or just gathering.

I believe this happened mainly because since you can buy mats from the data centre, there are more crafters overall now in the competition. The reason gathering sells is because of time vs effort needed.

Crafting is easy. Get mats and slap in a macro and the end. You cant do that for gathering.

So what are your thoughts about it? I feel like lvling up crafting right now is of less benifit except a few(cul and alchemist).

I could make 50mil a day back in launch time, just crafting. Now I cant hit nowhere near that and it sucks when you invest all your money melding in hopes of making profit only to find out its not the same anymore.

This isnt a rant, I just want to know from other crafters how you feel.

[LaylaTsarra]

Are your prices competitive? You can be sure people will server hop in places like Limsa to check prices. If they're not people will buy where they cost less.

[IamBetterThanYou]

This is the thing. I dont server hop to check prices for every single thing specially when they fluctuate every hour. This is inconvenient that only a buyer can do. A seller cant. It would add a whole lot of time consumption. If we were allowed to just merge all the market board together, this might havent been an issue but then that would further undercut the marketboard than it already is.

[IamBetterThanYou]

So, I have noticed something. Back in stormblood, when the new items, gears, minions released, they would be sold at high prices and would sell a LOT. But since shadowbringers, even after the new treasure map items which are in high demand, not even a single of those dresses sold in my server for the first 3 days. Yes, 3 days! And same goes with the new gears, only 2 people bought them on first day for black mage armour and none were sold until the price hit like 1.1mil which means people who made them during launch, had to sell in loss since the mats were still high priced.

So the point I am making is, it seems earning gil crafting has gone down significantly and it shifted more on crafting mats, aka, grinding dungeons for scrips or fates for gemstones or just gathering.

I believe this happened mainly because since you can buy mats from the data centre, there are more crafters overall now in the competition. The reason gathering sells is because of time vs effort needed.

Crafting is easy. Get mats and slap in a macro and the end. You cant do that for gathering.

So what are your thoughts about it? I feel like lvling up crafting right now is of less benifit except a few(cul and alchemist).

I could make 50mil a day back in launch time, just crafting. Now I cant hit nowhere near that and it sucks when you invest all your money melding in hopes of making profit only to find out its not the same anymore.

This isnt a rant, I just want to know from other crafters how you feel.

Also just to add, My prices are always cheapest but now it just doesnt feel worth it if you consider the cost of crystals and time gathering and crafting. Sure I STILL make profit but the merging has narrowed down significantly.

Right now I just farm white scrips. That gives more gil than crafting which is a shame.

[TwistedTea]

I'm from Balmung where competition and undercutting is vicious.

Secondly, I'm using yellow scrip gear.

World Visit has been good on the crafting side.

I've seen my gil income increase substantially, since people from the less populated servers seem to have more gil and have been buying our 'cheap' stuff.

Also, before World Visit,certain crafters/players had monopolies on certain mats by constantly buying them and inflating the prices so newer crafters/crafters without significant funds would be locked out of those market segments.

With World Visit,many of those monopolies have been broken.

For gathering, I think the bots now control many of the gathered items across the data centre but I could be wrong.

I gave up on gathering for serious gil even before World Visit after seeing well known players/FC using gathering bots 24/7 for months.

In addition, I also think crafting/gathering are not the most efficient ways of making gil.

Eureka drops, Treasure Maps, gardening,airships/submarines etc, are much more efficient and generate more gil.

[Misutoraru]

I have no idea about NA DC
but in our EU DC, not much have change, I move from relatively crowd server to another empties one, the price difference between highest and lowest is always less than 5%
Cross world market break the monopoly in market, I can now buy cheaper mat for my craft if I don’t want to gather myself, and no long suffer break you bank price tag on glamour.
The wealth between veterans and spout is huge, a spout could have only few mil without buying anything by the time they reach ShB, and a vet especially crafter will be sitting near 80-90 mil even spending a lot on glamours and housing item
The only drawback would be server hopping to find cheap mat, but I still making Gil by my craft without server hopping. I just set my item at a competitive price in my server. Unless I am selling item that worth millions, very few people go through all the trouble server hopping for cheap item.

[HumanNinjaToo]

I believe this happened mainly because since you can buy mats from the data centre, there are more crafters overall now in the competition. The reason gathering sells is because of time vs effort needed.

Crafting is easy. Get mats and slap in a macro and the end. You cant do that for gathering.

So what are your thoughts about it? I feel like lvling up crafting right now is of less benifit except a few(cul and alchemist).

I think you said it. There are a lot of people crafting and farming mats now. There's thousands of people who've been playing this game for years. Additionally, people get that double exp bonus for joining preferred servers and are probably focused on leveling their DoH and DoL roles earlier.

Also, I think a lot of people are farming mats to level crafters, then just dumping the leftover mats for low prices to clear up inventory space. Then you have all the people really watching the MB and which mats are needed for daily's, and they are taking advantage of the situation.

[Krotoan]

So, I have noticed something. Back in stormblood, when the new items, gears, minions released, they would be sold at high prices and would sell a LOT. But since shadowbringers, even after the new treasure map items which are in high demand, not even a single of those dresses sold in my server for the first 3 days. Yes, 3 days! And same goes with the new gears, only 2 people bought them on first day for black mage armour and none were sold until the price hit like 1.1mil which means people who made them during launch, had to sell in loss since the mats were still high priced.

People had no choice. If the crafters on that server decided something was expensive, it was expensive. Now you gotta deal with the other servers whos economies never supported the high prices, either they lacked the gil in circulation or people just aren't valuing the mats/effort the same.

Overall this has meant a decline in margins and prices, for sellers this may be bad but for the most point it isn't a matter of losing money, just having to invest more time to check other markets. If you're planning to sell something you're going to want to research the prices on the largest servers in your data center, it takes like 5 minutes to do. The days of simply being the only few suppliers of something and just setting a price are done.


As someone who doesn't really play the gil game it's a godsend.. but i can see how world first crafters would hate it.

[AlphaFox]

Honestly I am all for it. Compared to my server that sold the new bed mount for 50mil, compared to another server that sold for like 18. You can bet people are gonna look for new prices or just say "Not worth it"

[IamBetterThanYou]

This makes the buyers happy not the seller. Let me explain why.

For crafting there has to be incentive. The incentive is to earn gil. Selling for profit is why we sell, so saying prices are overpriced in certain server doesnt mean they have to be underpriced. Its how economy works. Supply and demand.

Merging all the servers now just increased the supply, the demand remained same. Sm1 who can pay 8mil for a dress can also pay 20mil just means they will save up the gil during the dead times of the patches.

Increasing all the crafter by merging is limiting gil earning for crafters. Sure, you guys will never run out of supply since you have more options aka more supply in cross world but it definitely is hurting the crafters. There is no reason to sympathise the buyers. I made this from a sellers prospective and as stated in the post, i wanted what the other crafters thinks. Idc about the buyers and niether should you as a craftter. Thats how business works. I know someone will call me selfish soon but its the truth.