Is this really FUN in 2012 ?! A reassuring Dev's answer if possible?

[nibelunc]

While I will sometimes say this as a joke, it really isn't a valid response. A lot of people play this game because they love Final Fantasy. They want to support the game and they'd like to see it succeed. They would like to see it become more respectable and for it to be as enjoyable as possible. It's because they love the brand and the game that they stick around, and it's their support that contributes to keeping the game going.

If they really do, they would ask for more story, atmosphere or Final Fantasy content to make the game feel more like Final Fantasy and they would less ask for more action and e-dick stuff. Just my opinion. There are better ways to support the devs than saying it is still a joke. I really enjoy the game and I cant say there is no challenge in it.

Seriously: why should someone who loves Final Fantasy compare FF to WoW? There is no reason for me to do that. The devs did many changes to the BS and its playable and makes a lot of fun. I want to play FF with commands as it ever was and not hack and slay? oO

[Dragonheart]

While I will sometimes say this as a joke, it really isn't a valid response. A lot of people play this game because they love Final Fantasy. They want to support the game and they'd like to see it succeed. They would like to see it become more respectable and for it to be as enjoyable as possible. It's because they love the brand and the game that they stick around, and it's their support that contributes to keeping the game going.

Right. I have left friends that i met 7-8 on XI (then wow) years ago for keep playing this game.. You can't simply say go back and play WoW ... I have high expectation for 2.0 ... And i hope that it will really succeed... But for this we need modern mechanics... So i'm sorry but i can say 100 times, atm the whole game feels "old" and i know that some niche players like it even in the realease status >.> ... But a game can't stay alive with 10,20,30k players... So they need to make something of completely new, offcourse i don't want a wow clone (i never said this), but some of his mechanics are a standard.. So we need them.

[Rousseau]

If they really do, they would ask for more story, atmosphere or Final Fantasy content to make the game feel more like Final Fantasy and they would less ask for more action and e-dick stuff. Just my opinion. There are betters ways to support this game.

Who says they aren't asking for those things, too? But those things will not keep the game going or pull in new players, that's what I'm trying to explain to you. It is possible for FFXIV to remain very much a FF game, while still implementing more modern MMO features.

[Dragonheart]

Who says they aren't asking for those things, too? But those things will not keep the game going or pull in new players, that's what I'm trying to explain to you. It is possible for FFXIV to remain very much a FF game, while still implementing more modern MMO features.

<3 you. (you can explain with lesser words than i use, what i mean.. ahh i wish i knew better english :P )

[Rousseau]

Thank you. But it's okay, just be the best advocate you can be, that's all anyone can do. ^^

[nibelunc]

Hm forget what I said, I just got the message from OP a little wrong. I was a in rage mode a bit. Also my english is not the best xP

(Was ich sagte meine ich ernst, aber du meintest ja eher die Bosskämpfe an sich, sorry Dragonheart.)

[Jinko]

Well the close range melee can do all the damage in the world, it doesn't matter if they're dead. Dead players don't win boss fights. They need to stop making combat so hazardous to non tanking melees or start making it a hell of a lot more dangerous for ranged. It's the content, not the classes themselves, that is the problem here imo. There's just as many ways to make a fight equally lethal for ranged classes, but SE just doesn't seem to have had that epiphany yet.

Ifrit can be lethal to ranged.

Coincounter can be lethal to ranged if they don't watch what they are doing. (people stack ranged in that fight because melee just seem to be slow when it comes to running out of danger)

[Coglin]

Right. I have left friends that i met 7-8 on XI (then wow) years ago for keep playing this game.. You can't simply say go back and play WoW

You sure can. I see post after post of people claiming that "X" situations needs to be more like "Y" situation in FFXI or WoW, including youself. Unless you stop that behavior yourself, as well as forcing others to stop it, then you don't even have the right to tell others they shouldn't tell you to go back to it.

[Dragonheart]

Hm forget what I said, I just got the message from OP a little wrong. I was a in rage mode a bit. Also my english is not the best xP

(Was ich sagte meine ich ernst, aber du meintest ja eher die Bosskämpfe an sich, sorry Dragonheart.)

np, it's ok

[Firon]

Well the close range melee can do all the damage in the world, it doesn't matter if they're dead. Dead players don't win boss fights. They need to stop making combat so hazardous to non tanking melees or start making it a hell of a lot more dangerous for ranged. It's the content, not the classes themselves, that is the problem here imo. There's just as many ways to make a fight equally lethal for ranged classes, but SE just doesn't seem to have had that epiphany yet.

That's not the prob the prob is WHM/CNJ's cant even bother to heal melee if they take dmg. with pld you do not need 2 whm/cnj to heal a tank pld can heal for 1k hp its self almost. The thing with ppl using all archers/blm cause they can't heal more than one person cause most whm's fail. Jinko is one the best whm's i played with he heals everyone and does not die for it. Like i said this problem lies within the community it's self.