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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    Give me some names blurred out screenshots of people with the reduced gear showing it’s item level or I am calling this hand waving an excuse onto just random anecdotes.
    While it's not a huge problem but when you start say a LoTA/ST run you'll see people's HP magically regenerating but you just joined the raid meaning they cheesed their ilvl to get in, I think OP is just saying that the people who do this (that want the path of least resistance while leveling) just wanna get in and get out but it means that variety goes out the window. Is there new people going into ST and LoTA? Yes not denying that but there are people who just want LoTA and especially ST because you can do it in 12 mins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    While it's not a huge problem but when you start say a LoTA/ST run you'll see people's HP magically regenerating but you just joined the raid meaning they cheesed their ilvl to get in
    The game takes a snapshot of your ilvl when you register for duty, so there's no need to stay in that gear until you enter the zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    The game takes a snapshot of your ilvl when you register for duty, so there's no need to stay in that gear until you enter the zone.
    That's not what I'm saying at all, you can be lvl 70, remove gear to get under ilvl 50-70 and get LoTA/ST unlike MSQ dungeons which have no ilvl restrictions, Alliance raid roulette does so as long as you're between ilvl 50-70 you'll either get: LOTA or ST its a coin flip then swap to your full gear when you get inside. When there's ilvl checks for Alliance roulette and not MSQ dungeons you know somethings not right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    When there's ilvl checks for Alliance roulette and not MSQ dungeons you know somethings not right.
    Alliance raids are considered end game while the MSQ is not end game.

    People run this for the tomes/xp. Most people don't want to spend 30+ mins in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue78 View Post
    Alliance raids are considered end game while the MSQ is not end game.

    People run this for the tomes/xp. Most people don't want to spend 30+ mins in there.
    I didn't know that ST, LOTA, Weeping City, Dun Scaith and the rest of the Ivalice Alliance raids were considered end game when the goal is to get EXP but okay, but yet it's okay for people to join Bardam's Mettle with an ilvl 120 book and an ilvl 39 ring and waste time and then add more time getting rid of them and getting a new healer? People run MSQ roulette and it can take 30+ mins and people can cheese it if they wanted to and people don't like that either, I don't care about it taking 20 mins I just want variety in Alliance Roulette, yes it's for EXP but being half awake in ST while hitting 3 buttons isn't riveting.

    People just want faceroll content they don't wanna think and then when they finally get a 60+ raid they actually have to pay attention and not watch youtube, god forbid you have to pay attention in a 24 man raid.

    Quote Originally Posted by NzomiKujo View Post
    You don't need to wait to get in to put your gear back on. You can put in it on after you register for the duty.
    It's still part of the problem, people cheesing their ilvl regardless to get either LoTA/ST for quick and easy ques so that you don't ever have to touch the 60-70 raids.
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    Last edited by Awful; 08-03-2019 at 03:11 AM.

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    The one time in the past few days I forgot to lower my ilvl, I got Orbonne. It sucked and went on for 45 minutes before people abandoned it at Thunder God because one party simply couldn't stay alive and kept dumping their mechs on everyone else.

    I'm okay with having an out, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    While it's not a huge problem but when you start say a LoTA/ST run you'll see people's HP magically regenerating but you just joined the raid meaning they cheesed their ilvl to get in, I think OP is just saying that the people who do this (that want the path of least resistance while leveling) just wanna get in and get out but it means that variety goes out the window. Is there new people going into ST and LoTA? Yes not denying that but there are people who just want LoTA and especially ST because you can do it in 12 mins.
    Then those people are kinda dumb because you can put your gear back on anytime between when you queue and when the roulette pops. You don't have to wait til you're in the duty.
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