Alliance Roulette problem

[LaylaTsarra]

Except... that's a myth... you don't even read the roulette rules -_- Go check yourself if you don't believe me. Everything you get from the run itself is soustracted, it doesn't count.

The rewards in roulettes, both gils and experience are based on the level of your job and the kind of job you tag with, nothing more, nothing less. In other words : roulettes rewards are roulettes rewards, dungeons or raids in themselves don't count.

Castrum does not reward the same experience as Praetorium and yes they do award experience based on job and level but ALSO the duty itself. There is a huge difference between the two duties and most of my friends aren't happy when they get Castrum.

[HyoMinPark]

Except... that's a myth... you don't even read the roulette rules -_- Go check yourself if you don't believe me. Everything you get from the run itself is soustracted, it doesn't count.

The rewards in roulettes, both gils and experience are based on the level of your job and the kind of job you tag with, nothing more, nothing less. In other words : roulettes rewards are roulettes rewards, dungeons or raids in themselves don't count.

Castrum does give less EXP compared to Praetorium with regards to the Roulette bonus. If you queue into MSQ Roulette as a level 65 job, you will get less EXP from Castrum than you would from Praetorium.

[Seraphor]

What’s a myth?
And what the hell does ‘Soulstracted’ mean?

I know exp rewards differ based on level, everyone knows that, but that’s not the only factor.
Castrum doesn’t give as much EXP as Praetorium, because it doesn’t take as long.

Apply the same framework to Alliance roulette, and people will run all of the content, at least as far as rewards/time is concerned. Some may still want to avoid Dun Scaithe and Orbonne for difficulty.

And roulette rewards are certainly not roulette rewards.

Try Levelling roulette when you get the level 22 Ifrit trial, verses getting a level 7X levelling dungeon.
You’re talking about 1/3rd of the EXP.

[Eldevern]

To all : just read the roulettes rules... You get more xp during the run but less since the final reward is lowered. Just do the experience.

[Seraphor]

To all : just read the roulettes rules... You get more xp during the run but less at the final reward is lowered.

Yes we know what it SAYS, that's not the whole picture though.

Are you going to disagree with actual results?

Level 22 Ifrit gives a tiny fraction of a level 7X dungeon in levelling roulette.
On the SAME job, at the SAME level.

Same is true, although less noticeable, of Castrum versus Praetorium.

You can say "but the rules say..." all you like, it's not going to mean anything.

[LaylaTsarra]

To all : just read the roulettes rules... You get more xp during the run but less since the final reward is lowered. Just do the experience.

Do you actually run these duties because you really don't seen to have a clue relative to the difference.

[Eldevern]

Do you actually run these duties because you really don't seen to have a clue relative to the difference.

Yeah but since I'm already 80, it just a "fast" way to do tomes (the same goes for my alliance runs).

Never mind, I anyway can hear I'm mistaken.

But I don't believe the "solutions" people suggest. There are always unexpected side effects. Especially some kind of penalty, carrots always work better.

I'm more used to hear people complaing Prae takes more time rather than an xp problem.

[Stanelis]

I bet you're one of the people that votes to abandon after a single wipe in any duty too, right? Just looking for an easy ride instead of something even mildly challenging. If you think the 60/70 alliance raids are Too Hard, maybe find a different game, because clearly your skill level is far too below average to be able to keep up with everyone else.

Say the player who doesn't run savage nor extremes (let alone ultimate) when the content is current x)

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Say the player who doesn't run savage nor extremes (let alone ultimate) when the content is current x)

Says the player who wants "decent raids" but skimps out on the existing ones.

[Stanelis]

Says the player who wants "decent raids" but skimps out on the existing ones.

I have no problems with the current raids but I sure don't want to run some of those in PuGs (it's not a pleasant experience, when you get people in the group who do not listen to directives) and especially not when I'm leveling.

A good example of this are the adds on the thunder god in Ordonne. If you have clueless people in the other groups who do not know how to position aoe, said groups will wipe and it ll make your raid wipe in turn, and there is precious little you can do about it if you are in the other groups. Sometimes people listen to directives but sometimes they are simply oblivious to it, resulting in a headache for the remainder of the raids and often an abandon duty/timeout.