Does the community ever have a constructive conversation about RMT?

[Lissyl]

I personally can make at LEAST a few hundred thousand a day passively (I don't craft either) so it always baffles me just how lazy some people are that they need to buy gil.

Do tell more. At my level 50, it sounds like it takes you 3 days to make what i have in 5 months and I craft a ton. I'm all ears....Viera jokes aside. Or is it 'I can make this much once I'm level 70 (80 now) and have a good FC and friends to run statics and and and...'? Seriously, give us worthless lazy peons some pointers.

[Vahlnir]

Do tell more. At my level 50, it sounds like it takes you 3 days to make what i have in 5 months and I craft a ton. I'm all ears....Viera jokes aside. Or is it 'I can make this much once I'm level 70 (80 now) and have a good FC and friends to run statics and and and...'? Seriously, give us worthless lazy peons some pointers.

I don't give up my "trade" secrets. It is legitimate work, however.

[Lissyl]

I don't give up my "trade" secrets. It is legitimate work, however.

Of course not. But it does make it kind of difficult to reasonably call others lazy just because they didn't find your 'angle'. Good luck with your moneymaking.

[Vahlnir]

Of course not. But it does make it kind of difficult to reasonably call others lazy just because they didn't find your 'angle'. Good luck with your moneymaking.

People just have to know what sells. That's...basically it. I'm not calling people who are having some issues making gil lazy. I'm calling the people who buy gil lazy.

[Nihility]

Of course not. But it does make it kind of difficult to reasonably call others lazy just because they didn't find your 'angle'. Good luck with your moneymaking.

he's probably just selling materia from 80 dungeon drops or hunts.
It baffles me every time but that stuff sells like 50k+ a piece for most of them despite how easy it is to get

[Kaedan]

Do tell more. At my level 50, it sounds like it takes you 3 days to make what i have in 5 months and I craft a ton. I'm all ears....Viera jokes aside. Or is it 'I can make this much once I'm level 70 (80 now) and have a good FC and friends to run statics and and and...'? Seriously, give us worthless lazy peons some pointers.

Yes, he has 3 classes at 80, so he's likely talking about running Treasure maps, etc. Personally, I make about 3-4 million a month completely passively from the gil earned by doing "Adventurer in Need" through roulettes and Beast tribe quests. If I actually tried to make gil actively, I could easily make multiple times that by doing treasure maps alone.

[Lissyl]

Yes, he has 3 classes at 80, so he's likely talking about running Treasure maps, etc. Personally, I make about 3-4 million a month completely passively from the gil earned by doing "Adventurer in Need" through roulettes and Beast tribe quests. If I actually tried to make gil actively, I could easily make multiple times that by doing treasure maps alone.

That gives me something to look towards then. Thanks Kaedan. =)

[Hasrat]

Yes, he has 3 classes at 80, so he's likely talking about running Treasure maps, etc. Personally, I make about 3-4 million a month completely passively from the gil earned by doing "Adventurer in Need" through roulettes and Beast tribe quests. If I actually tried to make gil actively, I could easily make multiple times that by doing treasure maps alone.

Tbf, it's entirely possible to start raking in the gil as soon as you've unlocked retainers, giving you access to the Marketboard minigame. That's really all it is to some players. Buy low, sell high. No other content required. If you're willing to spend much of your game time buying and selling, you can make a fortune.

It is by no means a strategy for everyone. Not everyone is going to enjoy playing that way, and that's ok. It's the sort of content that appeals to certain players, perhaps a poor application of Bartle's Taxonomy.

In a sense, that's also a sorta nice thing about the game, lack of gil sinks and all. There are so many avenues to making money, everyone has various means of amassing their fortune. Even though some players might think they're cornering a market on an item or resource, or exploiting the lazy or rich or whatever, there's plenty of ways for any player to get to the same level, and quickly.

Old rich players exist, sure. But you don't have to play the game for years to catch up to that if it's your goal.

[Moonlite]

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I think players have some weird ides about acceptable game play that helps RMT. This was an answer to bots which help RMT "the in game economic impact is the least important issue with bots. if anything, their material farming directly benefits most players by driving down costs of near-worthless materials." So botting which helps mass fund RMT is OK? if it keeps prices low.

Do tell more. At my level 50, it sounds like it takes you 3 days to make what i have in 5 months and I craft a ton. I'm all ears....Viera jokes aside. Or is it 'I can make this much once I'm level 70 (80 now) and have a good FC and friends to run statics and and and...'? Seriously, give us worthless lazy peons some pointers.

You do challenge log, daily hunts, and beast tribes, venture retainers when on (when auto log off is off you don't even need to play walk by and reventure), sell or do maps and sell mats (try to sell singles if enough retainers people pay way more for one then 99). That averages me a million a week give or take. Retainers bring a lot of garbage but can easily sneak in over a million. maps also sell well don't under bid sit on them and wait server prices will come back up over weekends.

Tbf, it's entirely possible to start raking in the gil as soon as you've unlocked retainers, giving you access to the Marketboard minigame. That's really all it is to some players. Buy low, sell high. No other content required. If you're willing to spend much of your game time buying and selling, you can make a fortune.

This game is so lucky it doesn't have a true MB scan buying bots(at least that I know of). So many under vendor price items. If you had a desynth lots of gear/fish is garbage has really good desynth. Crystals alone would probably make you a bunch if you sat all day buying desynthing.