Job Quest woes from a noob

[Rousseau]

I'm pretty sure all the job quests are tuned for parties, since they're meant to be used in party play. At level, I imagine you would need a full party of 30s for that quest.

If you really want to solo them, get yourself to around 45 or so, which will make everything but the two 45 quests and the 50 one easy enough for you to do. You will still need to group up for the last two or three, though. The 45 AF will send you to an instance that requires a party to get in. The other AF pieces can also be tough to get alone. The level 50 fight is basically impossible to solo right now, unless someone has found some kind of cheap exploit.

Personally, I don't think you'll need the job for much until 45+ anyway, so if you have trouble getting it, don't fret too much. Get that class up as high as you can, first, since you can't start doing endgame content until then, anyway. Experience parties work either way, and you'll want to avoid the use of most jobs when soloing, as they just aren't versatile enough.

[Wicka]

I'm pretty sure all the job quests are tuned for parties, since they're meant to be used in party play. At level, I imagine you would need a full party of 30s for that quest.

This is what I am saying. And having tried that, I am also saying that a party of 30s is not enough. I don't think that peoples willingness to grind more levels is the issue here. Its that the quest is misleading. Either they need to be tailored to fit the recommendations, or the level requirement needs to be boosted to 35 or so. The availability of content, or rather the lack of content, is of course a subject that people (myself included) will hang on.

Putting in more effort to achieve things is one thing, being unable to complete quests, even though you meet ALL requirements, until you grind 5+ more levels is another thing all together. I'm sure it is simply an attempt to pad the mid-game content a bit, but if that is the case, then just change the quest text to say party of 35s and I'm good.

[Charismatic]

This is what I am saying. And having tried that, I am also saying that a party of 30s is not enough. I don't think that peoples willingness to grind more levels is the issue here. Its that the quest is misleading. Either they need to be tailored to fit the recommendations, or the level requirement needs to be boosted to 35 or so. The availability of content, or rather the lack of content, is of course a subject that people (myself included) will hang on.

Putting in more effort to achieve things is one thing, being unable to complete quests, even though you meet ALL requirements, until you grind 5+ more levels is another thing all together. I'm sure it is simply an attempt to pad the mid-game content a bit, but if that is the case, then just change the quest text to say party of 35s and I'm good.

This game always seems to have content geared toward players that are 5+ levels above what the quest says, no idea why.
Toto-Rak? 25, content geared toward Lv30ish and all gear gained can't be equipped til 30+. Same with Darkhold and its Lv45 restriction.

This, to me, seems silly... but it is the way they chose to make the game.

[Rousseau]

This is what I am saying. And having tried that, I am also saying that a party of 30s is not enough. I don't think that peoples willingness to grind more levels is the issue here. Its that the quest is misleading. Either they need to be tailored to fit the recommendations, or the level requirement needs to be boosted to 35 or so. The availability of content, or rather the lack of content, is of course a subject that people (myself included) will hang on.

Putting in more effort to achieve things is one thing, being unable to complete quests, even though you meet ALL requirements, until you grind 5+ more levels is another thing all together. I'm sure it is simply an attempt to pad the mid-game content a bit, but if that is the case, then just change the quest text to say party of 35s and I'm good.

Perhaps it is possible, but just really, really hard. >_>

I agree that it doesn't make sense if it was that difficult for you. The way I deal with these things is to just overpower them until I no longer can, then I will get help.

[casker]

If you really want to solo them, get yourself to around 45 or so, which will make everything but the two 45 quests and the 50 one easy enough for you to do. You will still need to group up for the last two or three, though. The 45 AF will send you to an instance that requires a party to get in. The other AF pieces can also be tough to get alone. The level 50 fight is basically impossible to solo right now, unless someone has found some kind of cheap exploit.

Personally, I don't think you'll need the job for much until 45+ anyway, so if you have trouble getting it, don't fret too much. Get that class up as high as you can, first, since you can't start doing endgame content until then, anyway. Experience parties work either way, and you'll want to avoid the use of most jobs when soloing, as they just aren't versatile enough.

Well, it's not so much that I want to solo them. In my case I wanted to try soloing it, yes, but like in Wicka's case, it doesn't seem like a group of level 30's can do it either.

People are going to want those job abilities as soon as they are available. Telling a player to wait, in any capacity, 5, 10, 15 levels after you get the quest, says more about how the game is structured than about the players. I know you're just trying to give advice by saying not to fret too much, but people will fret no matter what. We shouldn't even be in a situation where you're telling players "don't worry, you don't need it yet." If you can't use jobs until you get in parties at endgame, etc, if this is true, then what's the point of having it be a level 30 quest? Why not just make it all end game content?

This game always seems to have content geared toward players that are 5+ levels above what the quest says, no idea why.
Toto-Rak? 25, content geared toward Lv30ish and all gear gained can't be equipped til 30+. Same with Darkhold and its Lv45 restriction.

This, to me, seems silly... but it is the way they chose to make the game.

This is what I mean...I had a group consisting of a 38, 33, and 31 for toto-rak, with the 38 pretty much carrying us versus the boss. It wasn't really difficult, but he did almost die to the boss so I had to heal spam him. I'd say this group quest is harder than said boss was. But why not just say its level 30 oriented? What could possibly be the point of saying it's 25 when it's geared for 30's at least?

[Rousseau]

Well, it's not so much that I want to solo them. In my case I wanted to try soloing it, yes, but like in Wicka's case, it doesn't seem like a group of level 30's can do it either.

People are going to want those job abilities as soon as they are available. Telling a player to wait, in any capacity, 5, 10, 15 levels after you get the quest, says more about how the game is structured than about the players. I know you're just trying to give advice by saying not to fret too much, but people will fret no matter what. We shouldn't even be in a situation where you're telling players "don't worry, you don't need it yet." If you can't use jobs until you get in parties at endgame, etc, if this is true, then what's the point of having it be a level 30 quest? Why not just make it all end game content?

To give people a choice, I guess. If someone wants to go and do experience parties or low level dungeons with a job, they can, even though it isn't necessary.

Of course, I played XI some, so I may just be desensitized to some of the silly things that SE tends to do. For instance, it wasn't always easy getting the "advanced" jobs in XI. It was possible to do the quests at 30, but even if they were soloable at that level, they were far from easy to do without prior knowledge as to the quests' workings.