Job Quest woes from a noob

[Wicka]

The quests aren't doable by a party at 30 either. You need a party 35+ to do it.

This.

I actually really like party play. So my buddy and I were pretty excited about the light-party recommendation in the quest info. We got a couple of other people and asked them to run as level 30ish classes so the challenge would still be present. We went to do my buddies quest for pally first, and we had him as gladiator, me as pugilist, a conjurer, and a lancer. We wiped about 5 times before the CNJ and LNC went to lvl 50 jobs, and the wipes weren't even close. We had absolutely no chance; couldn't cure fast enough, even our tank's DEF was negligible (to say nothing for my own), and the lancer and my own damage output was laughable. Out of 5 wipes, we killed ONE baddie, and that was after tank died, lancer died, I died, and tank was raised to land a killing blow only to die again.

I love a challenge. In fact sometimes I play games wrong because of added difficulty. I always choose gear that looks cool over gear with better stats (though at the time, the cool gear happened to be the good gear). But the difficulty of the job quests, at least the 2 that I have participated in, seems just ridiculous. If a party that fills most standard party conventions (tank, DD, healer), and is at the recommended level can't even pretend to have a chance, I think it stops being a challenge and just becomes stupid hard.

But I have Monk now, which is awesome. But I dread future Monk quests, and as bad as I want Bard, I am in no hurry.

[casker]

This.

I actually really like party play. So my buddy and I were pretty excited about the light-party recommendation in the quest info. We got a couple of other people and asked them to run as level 30ish classes so the challenge would still be present. We went to do my buddies quest for pally first, and we had him as gladiator, me as pugilist, a conjurer, and a lancer. We wiped about 5 times before the CNJ and LNC went to lvl 50 jobs, and the wipes weren't even close. We had absolutely no chance; couldn't cure fast enough, even our tank's DEF was negligible (to say nothing for my own), and the lancer and my own damage output was laughable. Out of 5 wipes, we killed ONE baddie, and that was after tank died, lancer died, I died, and tank was raised to land a killing blow only to die again.

I love a challenge. In fact sometimes I play games wrong because of added difficulty. I always choose gear that looks cool over gear with better stats (though at the time, the cool gear happened to be the good gear). But the difficulty of the job quests, at least the 2 that I have participated in, seems just ridiculous. If a party that fills most standard party conventions (tank, DD, healer), and is at the recommended level can't even pretend to have a chance, I think it stops being a challenge and just becomes stupid hard.

But I have Monk now, which is awesome. But I dread future Monk quests, and as bad as I want Bard, I am in no hurry.

I had the same trouble doing the LV30 BLM quest...as a 43 THM. I had to fight three gnats at once, and of course they're resistant against thunder so that leaves me with little options. I spammed my fire spells but their health pools are SO much higher than that of a regular level 35 monster. I finally teamed up with two of my LS mates later on and finished it. :/

I'm not saying we don't need a challenge, but something is a little imbalanced if I can't solo a quest 13 levels over the point I can take it, or if a full group of people at level can't beat it.

THANK YOU lol. This is what I was looking for, since I couldn't find a level 30 party myself to test out the content.

The main issue I want to address is not about finding a group or the willingness of people in this game to help, the community is actually very helpful and amiable and I commend them for it, actually. So thank you to all the people who offered me help, I appreciate it.

The main thing I'm wondering though is whether this is REALLY suited for level 30 group play, and it just seemed way too hard for that. SE said they wanted the job quest content to help progression from 30-50, and giving a quest at level 30 that a group of level 30's have no chance to complete is not meeting the goals of what the content was supposedly designed for. It's not smooth progression, and I can see it turning people away.

I do believe that people will eventually help if you ask around, but you shouldn't have to resort to having a level 50 run you through stuff, and this is more of a tacked on idea, but when I say there is no incentive for people to help, I just mean that these helpful level 50's could be institutionally rewarded somehow to lessen the feeling that they are getting burnt out or something, so people don't feel like they have to shoulder the weight of noobs all on their own.