The idea that we need to DPS must go.

[BokoToloko]

While I agree that a more active healing gameplay is needed, it's the fights that should encourage it with more unavoidable damage. As long as the fights are designed so that very few GCDs (or none at all) are needed to keep the party reasonably healthy, the healers must learn to do as much DPS as possible.

And even if the fights manage to encourage a more active GCD healing, healers will still have to DPS during downtime, as it's the straightforward way to keep the rule of Always Be Casting without overhealing your party.

[Bonkleberry]

It is not difficult. The parsers and what not are just looking for healers to watch their ABCs, not overheal, and use their cooldowns. If party members need healing, use a GCD, it is okay. However, healer heals in this game are strong and damage is highly predictable, so there will be times when no healing is needed. To keep your ABCs up, you use your damage rotation.

Being a good healer means keeping the party alive. But, being a good player also means you should (A)lways (B)e (C)asting, which means great healers have moments where they DPS. Both DPS players and tank players follow the same fundament rule as well.

[Izar_Chillen]

While I agree that a more active healing gameplay is needed, it's the fights that should encourage it with more unavoidable damage. As long as the fights are designed so that very few GCDs (or none at all) are needed to keep the party reasonably healthy, the healers must learn to do as much DPS as possible.

And even if the fights manage to encourage a more active GCD healing, healers will still have to DPS during downtime, as it's the straightforward way to keep the rule of Always Be Casting without overhealing your party.

This game is designed around avoiding telegraphed damge to a point of repeated encounters grants you if your decent, the ability to avoid all of that damage , which leaves raid wides , certain uunavoidables which get healed through and are "occasional"

In order to have more active healing like you get in other mmos , in dungeons enemies rate of attack (autos) would need to be faster and or they are granted special attacks that arent telegraphed

In raids there would need to be either adds that target dpsor healers or the boss throws out debuffs galore


This cant happen


This is a community that at large complained about a unique mission called in from the cold where SQE tried to create a stressful situation to push the narritive in a stroing emotional style to tell the story - there was a meltdown and they nerfed it

We have a healer community at large that still , STILL , completely Ignore blue bar marked cleansable burns, bleeds , magicUp , defence down etc


It would cause a shitstorm that for once healers had to constantly heal like other mmos when a VAST amount of healers play the role simply to get short queue times and do nothing but spam GCDs uneccesarily once inside the duty



We would love it if healers had to actually heal to keep groups from dying (if they didnt heal all the time)


Its been waaay to long to change something so core to the community without mass exodus of players that refuse to be challenged even slightly



sorry if i sound like a ranter , i mean well and i agree with you that healers should be having to heal from damage coming at us all the time in various forms but here we are

[Faafetai]

Yes because what I would love when I am healing is sitting their with thumb up my rump doing absolutely nothing while everyone is at full health. Would really keep me awake playing the job let me tell you. (sarcasm detected)

In seriousness, if they take away the limited dps I can do while playing healer I would quit the game, not just stop playing the healer roll. That means the game is going the worst direction possible, and the devs are even more out of touch with what healers actually want then I previously thought. It would be like someone attempting to drive a train as if it is a ship into open water.

[gumas]

this is something that you cant remove iam afraid, since this is an "idea" coming from people, not a system or mechanic from the game. it just like people found out you can wear cap backward and consensus is divided between people who wear cap normally and the one who wear it backward.

all i can say is its all depend on you, if you really stick with your principle to heal only then so be it, you will find people who dont mind, people who mind but still fine with it, and people who outright tell you are a failure of healer, etc.

i myself is a healer who 50% on dps effort, i will 100% put dot on the enemy but direct dps? maybe a couple "basic" spell like malefic/stone/dosis but thats about it, if tank hp drop to below 50-60% i go full heal mode, and in boss i go strict heal and dot only, no direct dps, thats my healer playstyle, i dont care what the other say, if you dont like it its fine.

[MiaShino]

Just ahhh gonna tone down the post and keep things most simple.

Press. Your. Damage. Buttons. During. Downtime.

Square gave us healer that heals by doing damage, now press the deeps buttons so we can kill the thing faster. Faster thing dies faster healing not required, unga bunga. Now get out there and dps the bad guy!

Please? Please try? For Mia? So we can have the nice things again? No no Timmy put the paste down and press your one key like good little boy.

[Silver-Strider]

They designed SGE to be entirely DPS focused due to Kardia.
They gave AST Macrocosmos as a DPS neutral attack that also heals.

DPS on Healers isn't going away.

[NobleWinter]

For some reason it just occurred to me that maybe the WHM MP issue in Endwalker was intentional. What if Square used player data to realize that most WHM aren't casting continually? They DPS when they feel comfortable and stop casting when nervous and so the kit was made to reflect an "average" WHM who doesn't dps much and just stands around waiting to heal.

[RinaShinomiya]

For some reason it just occurred to me that maybe the WHM MP issue in Endwalker was intentional. What if Square used player data to realize that most WHM aren't casting continually? They DPS when they feel comfortable and stop casting when nervous and so the kit was made to reflect an "average" WHM who doesn't dps much and just stands around waiting to heal.

Or they realized that most WHM players dont minmax stats and always use piety anyway so they used their olympic mental gmnastics to nerf WHM mp economy while buffing PoM, a MP spender.

[Lubu_Mykono]

They really should integrate ACT into the game and if you don't hit DPS 50% of any class at 3 minutes in you get kicked.