Doesn't RDM's AoE Seem Backwards?

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Shouldn't Scatter/Impact have been the faster cast and Veraero II and Verthunder II have been the higher potency long casts you use with dualcast to follow the same pattern as the single target rotation?

It just seems awkward having the "neutral" attack as the one you use with dualcast when we've been doing the opposite for single target for so long.

[Gallus]

Not a big deal, but yeah, it would make more sense.

[Nalien]

Pretty sure they reversed the order specifically to add a contrast between the AoE rotation and single target rotation.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Pretty sure they reversed the order specifically to add a contrast between the AoE rotation and single target rotation.

Well it certainly adds "contrast" I'll give you that.

[Kabooa]

I'd rather have Scatter Spam back.

[Drayos]

I'd rather have Scatter Spam back.

I dunno I find tyhe new AoE atleast more visually Appealing..

I kinda wish u had a additional proc off the two Additional AoE Abilities, Just had a AoE of Verstone and Verflare it could even proc over the two same hotkeys while using AoE Rotation.

I feel it woulda Spiced it up alittle more and been able to give generation alittle more pace then it does currently which can feel slow.

[Kabooa]

I dunno I find tyhe new AoE atleast more visually Appealing..

I kinda wish u had a additional proc off the two Additional AoE Abilities, Just had a AoE of Verstone and Verflare it could even proc over the two same hotkeys while using AoE Rotation.

I feel it woulda Spiced it up alittle more and been able to give generation alittle more pace then it does currently which can feel slow.

Alternatively, I'd rather Scatter / Impact be the starter and have a built in effect.

Impact
Spell
2.5 Seconds
Effect: Deals damage in a 5y radius to the target for 130 Potency. Grants "Scatter", causing the next spell to target all enemies in a 5y radius and deal 35% less potency.

Fact of the matter is this exchange gave Red Mage slightly better AoE at the cost of hotbar efficiency. Bleh. Feels awful.

[Archwizard]

Fact of the matter is this exchange gave Red Mage slightly better AoE at the cost of hotbar efficiency. Bleh. Feels awful.

Not really? I mean, it's an increase of two buttons in AoE, when we already lost 6 role actions and Tether, and merged Impact and the Verfinishers into other skills, so "hotbar efficiency" isn't a remote concern.

Further, part of the problem with your suggestion is that we would be continuously proccing Fire and Stone which we wouldn't be able to use in AoE since we would always be using Impact in its place.
(And that's before you get into numeric inefficiencies like the 25% longer cast time interfering with slide-cast timing, or further loss in Mana generation.)

And honestly, it would just make the rotation more boring? Not quite "spam Scatter for most of the dungeon" boring but 1:1 substitution of the single-target rotation with even fewer buttons.

[Duskane]

Fact of the matter is this exchange gave Red Mage slightly better AoE at the cost of hotbar efficiency. Bleh. Feels awful.

Red mage hotbar was pretty empty in SB it was 30% role skills

and its pretty much the same with less role skills and Verholy/flare on ver aero and thunder + scorch being on Jolt

[Mansion]

I'd rather have Scatter Spam back.

And get Impact back in the proc fishing rotation. Me too.

I would have actually prefered something like a second combo for AoE after Moulinet that would proc a VerAero/ VerThunder AoE finisher to make things a bit more dynamic.
In dungeons I see a lot of people a bit unsure about what to do in AoE. Get to 100 Mana for 5 Moulinets ? Get to 20 Mana for one Moulinet ? Push shiney buttons to make pretty spells ?