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    armandojc3's Avatar
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    Apoc Baldr
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    Pugilist Lv 90

    Nin is bad, i know but can i have a rotation please?.

    One of those fancy ones?, i know there is a site but i dont know it.

    thanks.
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    Gunbreaker Lv 86
    ffxivrotations.com or just hit up Youtube

    Though it's better to learn why these rotations are the way they are and come to your own conclusion on the best rotation for your playstyle, situation, ping ect
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    Last edited by Xia_Thas; 08-01-2019 at 07:24 AM. Reason: Added a line

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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Viper Lv 100
    The job is getting a lot of needless hate. Now that FFlogs is showing rDPS ninja in Eden is parsing MUCH higher than you would have expected, ranking just above machinist in rDPS parses.

    So if you enjoy the job, it's still in an alright spot when it comes to damage, just complicated to play.
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    Nergui Dotharl
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    The job is getting a lot of needless hate. Now that FFlogs is showing rDPS ninja in Eden is parsing MUCH higher than you would have expected, ranking just above machinist in rDPS parses.

    So if you enjoy the job, it's still in an alright spot when it comes to damage, just complicated to play.
    Machinist is second from the bottom and nin is a melee. rDPS included Nin is performing pretty bad compared to the 3 other melees

    That being said it doesn't mean you shouldn't start looking into the rotations, it might get buffed at some point. I wouldn't expect in major gameplay change but the potencies might get bumped.
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    The job is getting a lot of needless hate. Now that FFlogs is showing rDPS ninja in Eden is parsing MUCH higher than you would have expected, ranking just above machinist in rDPS parses.

    So if you enjoy the job, it's still in an alright spot when it comes to damage, just complicated to play.

    Yeah, that's not what the parses are saying. Here's E1S for example (rdps means all contributions counted, so nin isn't doing 10,140 dps, them + their trick attack is contributing that) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...496/image0.jpg (that's at 90th percentile, so basically more or less the best players of each job)

    Everyone is beating ninja, even RDM. Trick attack included.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 08-01-2019 at 12:34 PM.

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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Yeah, that's not what the parses are saying. Here's E1S for example (rdps means all contributions counted, so nin isn't doing 10,140 dps, them + their trick attack is contributing that) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...496/image0.jpg (that's at 90th percentile, so basically more or less the best players of each job)

    Everyone is beating ninja, even RDM. Trick attack included.
    When you take an inbetween Bard / Summoner (10,400), that puts everyone within 5% range of that middle point.

    That's not a bad split.
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    Higure Stillwind
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    Ninja Lv 73
    My boss opener. Probably not the most efficient but its what I've gravitated towards. Ninja is still a mess and hard to play "perfectly" but I like to think I do OK.



    Obviously after TCJ you want to use Fuma, Raiton before ending with Suiton.
    If you're like me and not 80 yet, Hyosho Ranryu is another Raiton instead.
    You might need to fill another weaponskill combo with AE before the last Bhavacakra to get the Ninki for it but I can't be sure without a striking dummy at the moment.
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    Last edited by BushyB; 08-02-2019 at 12:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Yeah, that's not what the parses are saying. Here's E1S for example (rdps means all contributions counted, so nin isn't doing 10,140 dps, them + their trick attack is contributing that) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...496/image0.jpg (that's at 90th percentile, so basically more or less the best players of each job)

    Everyone is beating ninja, even RDM. Trick attack included.
    90th percentile is players who’ve been buffed beyond reason. Think dance partner, dragoon tether, Astro cards etc etc.

    You’re better off looking at 75th percentile to see how jobs are doing when played well. Most the rDPS on jobs is nearly even. Ninjas rank 5th there when last I checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushyB View Post
    My boss opener. Probably not the most efficient but its what I've gravitated towards. Ninja is still a mess and hard to play "perfectly" but I like to think I do OK.



    Obviously after TCJ you want to use Fuma, Raiton before ending with Suiton.
    If you're like me and not 80 yet, Hyosho Ranryu is another Raiton instead.
    You might need to fill another weaponskill combo with AE before the last Bhavacakra to get the Ninki for it but I can't be sure without a striking dummy at the moment.
    I’ve been doing prepull suiton then meisui into ten chi jin. Helps you have enough ninki to get bunshin earlier to use during trick attack.
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    Higure Stillwind
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    Ninja Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I’ve been doing prepull suiton then meisui into ten chi jin. Helps you have enough ninki to get bunshin earlier to use during trick attack.
    I completely forgot about Bunshin. I'm not 80 yet so I'm not sure how to weave that in yet. Your rotation sounds good though.

    Just to be clear you're doing Suiton after hide refresh and then meisui'ing it to use Bunshin into the rest of the rotation I posted?
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    Last edited by BushyB; 08-02-2019 at 12:34 AM.

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