How about we change the "dps check" a little?

[PeppermintBrown]

Failure of dps checks = wipe is simply required, else you could just stack healers/tanks and slowly whittle bosses down. Both short term dps checks (usually in the transition phases) and long term (kill boss before enrage timer) have their place.

And I'm against the idea of different rewards. You either defeat the content as a group and get rewarded with loot or you fail. And HOW you measure dps is going to be an ugly can of worms. How do you account for different gear levels, jobs and party comps? How do you account for how many buffs like dance partner someone gets from others versus their individual peroformance? What if one healer gets stuck doing most of the healing gcds and the other pretty much dpses full time? What if if someone ELSE flubs a mechanic that gets you killed? Or you get targeted by rng mechanics more often and lose uptime?

It's just not a good idea. Measuring dps is a good tool for comparison and self improvement but not as an objective measure to base algorithm on for rewards.

[AxlStream]

EX and Savage are the only fights in the game with enrages. Wait for echo if you're that bad.

[MPK]

How did we get to this point where people think participation awards are ok? Instead of asking for free shit, why not just get better?

[Beelhi]

The ONLY content you are currently "locked out of" aka can't beat if you don't work for it, are the two ultimate fights because you can't unsync them. Can't beat savage this tier/expansion? Wait, get better gear, level up etc and beat it then. What you want is access to the best gear without working for it.
Also if they ever were to listen to this, i can guarantee you a lot of players will unsub because the fights lose meaning. Why work hard and improve to get something when everyone can get it for tickeling the boss until it dies an hour later. What's next? "Don't let players die for failing a mechanic so they have a chance of doing the content"?

[armandojc3]

This thread is what happens when you give people participation rewards for being inferior and safe spaces to protect them from opinions.

[NessaWyvern]

Casuals gain another tier of content they can at take a casual run at, and hardcores still have their entire challenge and reward system completely in tact.

I used to do a ton of PvP in HW.
Casuals have already had PvP ruined for hardcore players, so that they could play it too.
I don't want raiding to get the same treatment. Casuals would applaud it, and say its great, but you'll seriously alienate the more hardcore players. Most of my PvP FC mates stopped playing after the PvP changes in SB. You'll see the same with the raiding community if they accommodate to Casuals, rather than the people who actually enjoy difficult content.