How about we change the "dps check" a little?

[Goji1639]

and in FFxiv, you can buy your savage clears.

No idea how realistic this actually is, but if it's an accessible option for casual player then fair enough.

This was a joke right? This game in no way requires mechanical perfection and anything outside savage (and MAYBE Ex trials) is easy mode to allow casuals to progress. I am not locking anyone out of anything. I am casual myself. I have never touched Savage or an EX trial that was synced. The rest of the game is for us.... stop wanting someone else's slice of cake and just eat yours.

So, what exactly is being taken away from hardcores if casual players are still able to clear the content if they don't beat the enrage timer? If you get better rewards for actually beating the timer then what's the problem? Is it that they still feel special but not quite special enough, so the only way is to lock other people out?

Sorry, but the reasons you all have as to why casual players shouldn't be allowed to clear this content are just petty.

[CorbinDallas]

No idea how realistic this actually is, but if it's an accessible option for casual player then fair enough.


So, what exactly is being taken away from hardcores if casual players are still able to clear the content if they don't beat the enrage timer? If you get better rewards for actually beating the timer then what's the problem? Is it that they still feel special but not quite special enough, so the only way is to lock other people out?

Sorry, but the reasons you all have as to why casual players shouldn't be allowed to clear this content are just petty.

OK, you can clear the 4th Savage fights, but you only get a page. You're not allowed the mounts, coffers, or actual gear drops. How about that?

Such a ridiculous thing to even consider. You either do the content properly and get rewarded, or just don't do it at all. I'm firmly in the camp of no participation trophies.