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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    They really do need a way of enforcing/encouraging people to put out DPS towards the higher end of what they're capable with their class/gear.

    The DPS check for ES2 vs ES1 is a very significant step up and tons of groups are getting walled mostly because people aren't doing their rotations properly.
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    Player DonovanLifeweaver's Avatar
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    Vormav Tengille
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They really do need a way of enforcing/encouraging people to put out DPS towards the higher end of what they're capable with their class/gear.

    The DPS check for ES2 vs ES1 is a very significant step up and tons of groups are getting walled mostly because people aren't doing their rotations properly.
    so tyher answer would be 3rd party program > training?
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    Alaray's Avatar
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    Vevri Arctyria
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DonovanLifeweaver View Post
    so tyher answer would be 3rd party program > training?
    Third party program tells where you're lacking. Use the subsequent information to improve during practice.

    To the OP:

    It'd be massively tilting to receive a lesser reward because the team cleared a fight despite not meeting the enrage on it. I'd rather wipe and go again for a full chance, for a real kill. Bosses that crap out loot won't retain a semblance of difficulty with regards to, at least, requiring us to understand our classes and to have a reason to strive for improvement to receive the full reward. And if we can't meet a check, we didn't play well enough to have earned the reward. Getting a lesser reward is just a "You Tried" sticker, it'd be an insult not just to us as players trying to get through the content, but also to the scene as a whole since it won't matter anymore if you're a good or decent or average player. It'd just be suped up normal mode, where you can have 50+ deaths and still clear.
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    Last edited by Alaray; 08-01-2019 at 12:00 PM.

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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They really do need a way of enforcing/encouraging people to put out DPS towards the higher end of what they're capable with their class/gear.

    The DPS check for ES2 vs ES1 is a very significant step up and tons of groups are getting walled mostly because people aren't doing their rotations properly.
    Honestly, If you don't know how to play your job optimally you shouldn't even be in savage content.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    Honestly, If you don't know how to play your job optimally you shouldn't even be in savage content.
    I honestly wouldn't be against them requiring the respective target dummy to be destroyed in order to even enter the instance in question if they didn't lean towards being overtuned.
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They really do need a way of enforcing/encouraging people to put out DPS towards the higher end of what they're capable with their class/gear.

    The DPS check for ES2 vs ES1 is a very significant step up and tons of groups are getting walled mostly because people aren't doing their rotations properly.
    The wall seems to work as its needed. What should be changed is requiring the Eden's Gate raids to be done in order every week. This way these players have to deal with the same wall each week.
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