How about we change the "dps check" a little?

[TheForce]

Here is the thing.

DPS check right now is straight forward, you dont hit it you fail and you start again.
How about if instead of failing a dps check you still get your reward, however if you manage to get the dps check you will be eligible to claim another reward for the week, making it two for people with good performance and one for casuals.

The moment of the dps check, the big bang however should still deal a significant amount of damage, about 95% of the HP (calculated by dealing flat damage, so we will be able to mitigate it) of everyone that still will be a punishment but if the team survives it and defeat the boss they will get rewarded.
If they wont kill the boss in the next few minutes then there will be a final check where everybody dies, so really bad team will still lose and mediocore ones will be able to progress.

That way we could make highest ilvl gear more accessible to everyone, veterans still happy and probably less toxicity around the hardest content of the game.

People really need to accept that there is content in this game that is simply just not for everybody. By trying to accommodate something like this for players the content is just not suited for (lower-skilled players), you will effectively ruin the content.

I'm sorry OP, but this is a very, very bad idea. We need to get away from this "casuals first" mindset. It will just dumb down the game...

[Magnedeus]

Here is the thing.

DPS check right now is straight forward, you dont hit it you fail and you start again.
How about if instead of failing a dps check you still get your reward, however if you manage to get the dps check you will be eligible to claim another reward for the week, making it two for people with good performance and one for casuals.

The moment of the dps check, the big bang however should still deal a significant amount of damage, about 95% of the HP (calculated by dealing flat damage, so we will be able to mitigate it) of everyone that still will be a punishment but if the team survives it and defeat the boss they will get rewarded.
If they wont kill the boss in the next few minutes then there will be a final check where everybody dies, so really bad team will still lose and mediocore ones will be able to progress.

That way we could make highest ilvl gear more accessible to everyone, veterans still happy and probably less toxicity around the hardest content of the game.

Then highest ilvl gear acquisition would be way too easy. And too easy=boring.

If you can't beat a dps check the you either:

1. Need to aquire better gear and meld the right materia for your job.

2. Work on your dps rotation to get the best dps possible for your job.

If you failed getting your drivers license would they still give it to you? Hell no.

[SenorPatty]

How would making 1/2 progress be more frustrating than doing 0? I dont get the lack of logic behind it.
What i meant by double rewards is, if your team will fail the dps check but still clear the raid you still get it, but if you go for a second run you will be able to get another one if you kill it before the enrage timer.
This is going to make things easier to progress, less frustrating when the things go wrong multiple times in a row. In this type of content team organisation and the selection plays the biggest role and then your personal skill takes the place in importance after the team overal performance which you could not control.
Since SE is so strong against any kind of parses and they are not going to introduce it at all into their game, dont you think it is quite ironical they demand you to get them on the PC to learn how to do 80+% and then reward you with the best gear in the game?
I found it ridiculous and off putting.

You know Nedkel, sometimes I forget the stuff you write on these boards and I take you seriously. I was even going to write some logical rebuttals for you but this right here...yeah I'm not gonna bother. I'm just gonna go with a straight up, big fat "no" and leave it at that. My mistake was posting in this thread in the first place, should've just hightailed outta here after reading your post.

[RareItems]

Based on how many ppl are clearing the new raid in 1 day, i say the new raid is extremely easy if your using:

1.) 3rd Party Apps
2.) Statics
3.) Voice Chat
4.) Food Buffs/Potions/Stat boost potions

These guys didn't even need to watch a 45 minute Mr Happy guide for it 5 times lol.

[Daibunnie]

How would making 1/2 progress be more frustrating than doing 0? I dont get the lack of logic behind it.
What i meant by double rewards is, if your team will fail the dps check but still clear the raid you still get it, but if you go for a second run you will be able to get another one if you kill it before the enrage timer.

This is going to make things easier to progress, less frustrating when the things go wrong multiple times in a row. In this type of content team organisation and the selection plays the biggest role and then your personal skill takes the place in importance after the team overal performance which you could not control.
Since SE is so strong against any kind of parses and they are not going to introduce it at all into their game, dont you think it is quite ironical they demand you to get them on the PC to learn how to do 80+% and then reward you with the best gear in the game?
I found it ridiculous and off putting.

The whole point of the dps check is to make sure the party is skilled enough to survive through the mechanics and able to dps consistently during it. There are several dps/mechanic checks during the fight, should your group be able to clear if you're not able to pass any of them? The rewards for clearing said fight is getting the highest tier of gear, which does make those checks more lenient as you clear each week, but if this is the hardest tier of current content, why trivialize your first clear with inflated ilvls. The game already has a normal version of each fight if you need something easier or want to avoid the enrage/dps checks.

Also, SE doesn't care whether or not you use a parser as long as you're not making it obvious to anyone else that you're using one. Not to mention, you don't need a parser at all to clear since the fights were designed without those in mind and the game has systems like sky, sea, stone for each savage fight to see if you're doing enough dps.

[Xyr]

For a game that does not support and officially prohibits dps checking, it shouldn't have dps checks at all LOL.

[DonovanLifeweaver]

HEY!does this answer your complaints?

[DonovanLifeweaver]

For a game that does not support and officially prohibits dps checking, it shouldn't have dps checks at all LOL.

theres a difference between dps race and players forcing every player to use 3rd party programs or get bitched at.

[Selova]

This is the video game equivalent of a participation trophy. The player base already has a problem with having no idea how to play their jobs, we dont need the small area of challenging content in the game dumbed down to keep fostering more of these types of players.

Dps checks/enrages will never go away because it's not only a means to gauge how you're performing as a group bit it's also the foundation for theory crafters.

There is nothing rewarding about randomly hitting whatever buttons you want and still winning because people cant be bothered to take a few minutes to learn their jobs. All you'd be doing is turning bosses into loot pinatas. That content already exists and they are called dungeons. So that's a no from me. Chief.

[MomomiMomi]

I would have agreed with this post if what you were really looking for is more interesting gameplay. But then you asked for a participation trophy, and I'm going to have to say no. If you didn't clear, you didn't clear.