How about we change the "dps check" a little?

[Goji1639]

Yeah, all content should be available to everyone who is paying the sub, for sure. But if we are talking about people being kept out of content because they don't have the skill to keep up with the more skilled players, then I don't think there is a lot anyone can do about that. The only work around is playing the content with friends who don't care if you aren't always up to par.

I myself have not done/attempted any of the hardest content in the game yet so I cannot speak to the experience. But if my skill level isn't up to par, then that means I practice until it is, or I resign myself to not be able to participate I guess. IDK, I'll cross that bridge when I get there. I would not advocate dumbing things down because I suck though.

It's really not dumbing down anything, though. If you want the best rewards you still have to beat the timer, and doing so would be just as challenging as it is now. It seems like the only thing being suggested is making it so the enrage timer isn't guaranteed death, so a casual group would be more likely to be able to clear it.

The 2 things aren't really related; the "hardcore" experience is in no way altered. The "problem" seems to boil down to some people not wanting casual players to even be able to clear the content, and their reasons being varying degrees of "fuck them." It's just petty.

OK, you can clear the 4th Savage fights, but you only get a page. You're not allowed the mounts, coffers, or actual gear drops. How about that?

Such a ridiculous thing to even consider. You either do the content properly and get rewarded, or just don't do it at all. I'm firmly in the camp of no participation trophies.

Not sure how the loot system works in this game yet, but yes, barring people who don't beat the timer from specific rewards is fine. I'm sure even without the timer Savage is harder, though, so you should get something Savage specific for the clear. Allow casuals to participate but give them weaker rewards for weaker performance. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Not sure why many of you lose your minds over that prospect.