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    Kaelynath's Avatar
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    Usurping and You! How to take over an FC with one small role...

    Hey all,

    So I have been loving just about everything about FFXIV for two years now. Find it to be a vastly improved experience from any other MMO I have played. That having been said? The Free Company ranks system needs a serious overhaul, and I'd like to discuss with you all just one small reason that is.

    The limitless 'Promote/Demote' permission.

    You see, let us say that I have three ranks considered 'Leadership'. You have the Guildmaster, the Officers and the Advisors (assistants to the Officers). If I were to promote a person to Advisor that I initially trusted and he brought in his friend who remained an initiate or raider or what have you. All is good. Though, people can fall victim to the human condition and are prone to disagreements. Despite being the third rank down, this Advisor could promote his lowly friend to Officer. Allowing permissions above his own.

    This means that one wrong choice in person, and the entire Free Company could be hurt in the process. All of the furniture stolen, all of the Gil or banked items. Permissions reserved for the highest and most trusted. Who is it that designed this broken system? Why is it that you can demote someone who is higher in rank than you, or promote people to a higher rank than you?

    It annoys me how flawed this particular system is. I could understand if it was promoting only to the rank below yours or your own. But the fact that you can do it with ranks higher than the one that you are in is ludicrous.
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    King Canadane
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    You don't actually have 3 ranks of leadership.
    You have 1. The owner.
    Everyone else is equal, though divided by whatever role you wish to give them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    You don't actually have 3 ranks of leadership.
    You have 1. The owner.
    Everyone else is equal, though divided by whatever role you wish to give them.
    Just because it is like that doesn't mean it should be. The FC system is very flawed in its design if what I stated is even a possibility. No other MMO has this problem, and FFXIV beats the bejeezus out of most MMOs.
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    Tseh L'kodmee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelynath View Post
    Just because it is like that doesn't mean it should be. The FC system is very flawed in its design if what I stated is even a possibility. No other MMO has this problem, and FFXIV beats the bejeezus out of most MMOs.
    Canadane has the right of it. You literally only have the one mandatory officer position, Owner, that has access to anything and everything at any one time. No other potion you create, officer or otherwise, has to have the ability or the access to steal or misuse company resources at any one point in time. It's all about permission settings here. You can have "officer" positions but they do NOT at any time require access to things like furnishing placement, Company Chest access, etc...

    You can have as many layers of management-related positions as you want in your company and not one of them has to have permissions to allow this behavior.
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    Sef Makaro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelynath View Post
    Just because it is like that doesn't mean it should be. The FC system is very flawed in its design if what I stated is even a possibility. No other MMO has this problem, and FFXIV beats the bejeezus out of most MMOs.
    I found a bug a few years ago in WoW related to guild permissions. During a raid my GM/Raid Leader was irritating me to I used the /gkick command, and to my surprise it worked! As an officer I was able to remove the guild leader from his own guild. Was hilarious, for everyone but him.
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